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  • Don’t Let Your Bitcoin Die With You: Wills and Inheritance in Australia

    What happens to your Bitcoin if you die without a will? Dale Warburton, founder of My Bitcoin Will, returns to Honest Money to explain why most Bitcoin inheritance plans fail, and how to make sure your stack reaches the people you love.

    Dale walks through a real Queensland example of dying without a will, why your will becomes public during probate, and why naming your Bitcoin in it could put a target on your beneficiaries' backs. He also explains why an access plan matters even more than a will, how inherited Bitcoin is taxed in Australia, and why your plan is never set and forget.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Dale and Anja discuss wills, letters of wishes, executors, access instructions, and the legal side of Bitcoin that every holder should understand before they need to.

    The conversation moves from what the state does with your assets when there is no will, to the key terms every beginner needs: probate, executors, letters of wishes, and testamentary trusts. Dale shares why he started My Bitcoin Will after a lawyer dismissed his Bitcoin, and what makes a will valid.

    The episode also covers power of attorney, keeping Bitcoin in the residue of your estate, where to store access instructions, keeping your plan simple, cost base and provenance records, when Australian banks might offer Bitcoin custody, and the first step you should take today.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Without a will, the state decides who inherits your Bitcoin
    Intestacy rules differ by state, even between neighbouring towns
    Your will becomes public during probate in Australia
    A letter of wishes stays private and can point to your access instructions
    Leaving Bitcoin in the residue of your estate protects your beneficiaries
    Never store access instructions with your seed material
    Inheriting Bitcoin is not a taxable event in Australia
    Get your access plan in place first, then your will

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Meet Dale Warburton of My Bitcoin Will
    00:59 What Happens If You Die Without a Will
    04:03 Wills, Probate, and Executors Explained
    05:55 Letters of Wishes and Testamentary Trusts
    08:02 Are Australian Lawyers Bitcoin Literate?
    11:14 Why Dale Started My Bitcoin Will
    15:32 DIY Wills and What Makes a Will Valid
    18:33 Losing Mental Capacity and Power of Attorney
    23:29 How to Describe Bitcoin in Your Will
    28:04 Why Bitcoin Is Harder to Inherit Than Shares
    31:11 Where to Store Access Instructions
    37:29 How Inherited Bitcoin Is Taxed in Australia
    39:51 Cost Base, Provenance, and Bank Custody
    47:25 Do Single People Need a Will?
    49:51 Your First Step and Keeping Your Will Updated

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    My Bitcoin Will: https://mybitcoinwill.com/
    Dale on X: https://x.com/Dale21M

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinAustralia #BitcoinInheritance #BitcoinWill #EstatePlanning #DaleWarburton #MyBitcoinWill #SelfCustody #Probate #PowerOfAttorney #SoundMoney #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    54 min
  • The Truth About Bitcoin in Australia: Government, Banks and the RBA

    What does the Australian government really think of Bitcoin? According to Bayani Mills, CEO of the Australian Bitcoin Industry Body (ABIB), the problem is that it doesn't. Bayani joins Honest Money to explain how policymakers, regulators, and banks actually see Bitcoin, and why Bitcoiners need to show up if they want the rules to change.

    Bayani breaks down why Australia fell behind on Bitcoin innovation, how Bitcoin mining could help build energy infrastructure and lower power costs, and why AML and KYC rules create risky stockpiles of personal data. He also shares why he expects a pitch for a retail CBDC within five years, and why the RBA talks about Bitcoin so much for an institution with no position on it.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Bayani and Anja discuss government sentiment toward Bitcoin in Australia, Bitcoin mining and energy, KYC, debanking, and the road to a retail CBDC.

    The conversation moves from ABIB's recent event at Parliament House in Melbourne, hosted by Libertarian MP David Limbrick, to why so many Australian Bitcoin miners stay quiet about what they do. Bayani explains how regulators put up barriers instead of leaning into innovation, and how talent and investment went overseas as a result.

    The episode also covers AUSTRAC and data collection, the cost and effectiveness of AML and KYC, Project Acacia and stablecoins, banks reviewing customers' social media, the difference between inflation, debasement, and CPI, the shift toward independents, and how everyday Bitcoiners can get involved through meetups and ABIB working groups.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Most Australian policymakers only know Bitcoin through crypto and mainstream media
    ABIB engages government on Bitcoin mining, energy, and methane abatement
    More Bitcoin mining is happening in Australia than regulators realise
    Regulatory barriers pushed Australian talent and investment overseas
    AML and KYC rules create stockpiles of personal data that put Bitcoiners at risk
    Bayani expects a pitch for a retail CBDC in Australia within five years
    Banks can decide who they serve, and Australians have no right to a bank account
    Rules only change when Bitcoiners turn up and engage with policymakers

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 What Does Government Think of Bitcoin?
    01:47 Changing Hearts and Minds in Parliament
    03:51 The Parliament House Event in Melbourne
    06:35 Why Australian Miners Stay Quiet
    10:36 Aussie Bitcoin Talent and Capital Flight
    14:46 How to Get Involved With ABIB
    18:52 KYC, AUSTRAC, Data Honeypots and Wrench Attacks
    27:57 Does AML and KYC Even Work?
    32:24 What ABIB Has Been Working On
    36:14 Project Acacia, Stablecoins and the RBA’s CBDC Paper
    39:43 The RBA Has No Position on Bitcoin?
    42:05 The Digital Euro and Money as a System of Control
    48:44 Inflation, Debasement, and CPI
    50:46 Debanking and Political Dissent
    53:55 Independents and Political Engagement
    56:51 Bitcoiners Inside Government and Banks
    58:23 Is Gerard Rennick Coming Around?
    1:01:30 What Bayani Is Most Bullish On
    1:04:13 Meetups and Tools for Bitcoiners
    1:06:09 Methane Abatement at Local Landfills
    1:09:10 Final Thoughts

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    ABIB: https://bitcoinindustrybody.org.au
    Orange Label: https://orangelabel.io
    BTC Map: https://btcmap.org

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinAustralia #BayaniMills #ABIB #AUSTRAC #KYC #CBDC #RBA #Debanking #BitcoinMining #ProjectAcacia #SoundMoney #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 11 min
  • The Hidden Cost of Inflation and How You Can Be Paid in Bitcoin in Australia

    How do you get paid in Bitcoin in Australia, and why might it be the best defence against inflation far worse than the official figures suggest? Adam Poulton, CEO of Get Paid in Bitcoin, joins Honest Money to explain how Australians can receive part of their wages in Bitcoin into self-custody, and why he calls CPI β€œa CP lie”.

    Adam breaks down why real inflation measured by the money supply runs closer to 8 to 10 percent a year, how house prices track money printing rather than CPI, and what that does to your wages, savings, and chance of ever buying a home. He also shares how Get Paid in Bitcoin works with payroll systems like Xero, why he was banned by a major bank for life, and why no change of government can outrun money printing.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Adam and Anja discuss getting paid in Bitcoin in Australia, real inflation, debanking, and why political fixes fall short. They also dig into why ⁨Dave Hughes⁩ and ⁨Karl Stefanovic⁩ feel so close to landing on Bitcoin as the solution.

    The conversation moves from how Get Paid in Bitcoin works, including its Xero payroll integration and self-custody by default, to why the gap between CPI and real inflation leaves workers falling behind every year. Adam explains how M3 money supply has grown around 8 to 10 percent a year for decades, and how that reshapes wages, retirement, and everyday life.

    The episode also covers Adam’s lifetime ban from a major bank, the debanking wave hitting Bitcoiners and business owners, the friction on cash withdrawals, the tobacco-tax Laffer curve, and why Adam believes Bitcoin, not a change of government, is the real escape from a broken monetary system.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Get Paid in Bitcoin lets Australians receive wages in Bitcoin, into self-custody
    It integrates with payroll systems like Xero for easy employer setup
    Official CPI badly understates what Australians actually lose to inflation each year
    Real inflation measured by money supply runs closer to 8 to 10 percent a year
    House prices track the growth in money supply, not the official CPI figure
    Australia creates hundreds of billions of brand-new dollars every single year
    Debanking is hitting Bitcoiners and business owners, Adam was banned for life
    No change of government can outrun a monetary system built on money printing

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Meet Adam Poulton of Get Paid in Bitcoin
    01:15 What Get Paid in Bitcoin Actually Does
    05:25 Self-Custody by Default
    06:56 Bitcoin as an Employee Retention Tool
    09:08 Why Wages Can’t Keep Up
    13:41 CPI vs Real Inflation
    21:30 Hundreds of Billions Printed Every Year
    26:30 Is Australia Waking Up to Money Printing?
    31:30 Why Dave Hughes and Karl Stefanovic Are So Close
    39:13 Banned for Life by the CBA
    41:05 The Debanking Wave Hitting Australians
    43:37 Bracket Creep and a Broken System
    46:26 WTF Happened in 1971
    48:30 Why Political Fixes Won’t Work
    53:01 The Tobacco Tax and the Laffer Curve
    58:29 Bitcoin Price Outlook and Final Thoughts

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Get Paid in Bitcoin: https://getpaidinbitcoin.com.au
    Adam Poulton on X: https://x.com/adampoulton
    WTF Happened in 1971: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #GetPaidInBitcoin #Inflation #CPI #MoneyPrinting #Debanking #BitcoinAustralia #AdamPoulton #SoundMoney #FinancialSovereignty #WTFHappenedIn1971 #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 1 min
  • Stephan Livera on The Power Law & Bitcoin's Path to Millions

    Where is the Bitcoin price really heading, and does the power law still point to Bitcoin reaching millions?Β 

    Stephan Livera joins Honest Money to explain his outlook on Bitcoin's price, why adoption is slower than he once believed, and what the power law model projects for the decades ahead.

    Stephan explains how his thinking on Bitcoin adoption has shifted over eight years, why he now meets people wherever they enter the funnel, from ETFs to self-custody, and what the power law suggests about Bitcoin reaching roughly a million dollars in the early 2030s and around ten million by 2045. Along the way he reflects on the long game of Bitcoin, surviving your first bear market, community infighting, and what the Coldcard hack really means for self-custody.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Stephan and Anja discuss Bitcoin's price trajectory, the power law, bear markets, and self-custody.

    The conversation moves from eight years of podcasting, through his long-term conviction on Bitcoin as money, to how he now sees adoption as a broad funnel rather than an all-or-nothing choice. He explains why he likes the power law as a grounding model over the debunked stock-to-flow, and what it projects for Bitcoin's price into the 2030s and 2040s.

    The episode also covers why the first bear market is the hardest and why dollar-cost averaging through it matters most, the exhausting community infighting around BIP-110 and spam, the quantum-security consortium forming around Bitcoin, and why, after the Coldcard hack, Stephan believes multi-vendor multisig is the real long-term answer to self-custody.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    The power law projects Bitcoin near a million dollars in the early 2030s and ten million by 2045
    Stephan favours the power law as a grounded model over the debunked stock-to-flow
    Bitcoin is not get rich quick, it is a five to ten year, multi-decade process
    The first bear market is the hardest, and DCA through it matters most
    He has evolved on "Bitcoin only" while keeping his long-term conviction
    Adoption is a broad funnel, from ETFs and custodians to full self-custody
    Community infighting over BIP-110 and spam burned out many builders
    After the Coldcard hack, multi-vendor multisig is his long-term self-custody answer

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Intro: Bitcoin's Path to Millions
    05:09 Bitcoin Only, With Nuance
    15:07 The Hybrid Car Theory of Adoption
    18:21 Bitcoin as a Broad Adoption Funnel
    23:45 Why Bitcoin Isn't Get Rich Quick
    30:50 Do the Price Models Actually Work?
    34:47 Surviving Your First Bear Market
    37:30 Infighting, BIP-110, and Spam
    43:45 Institutions and the Next Fork Fights
    46:16 The Quantum Security Consortium
    48:38 Self-Custody After the Coldcard Hack
    52:31 The Continual Learning Journey
    56:56 Community Questions: Lightning in Australia
    01:01:43 Final Thoughts: A Multi-Decade Process

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Stephan Livera on X: https://x.com/stephanlivera
    Stephan Livera Podcast: https://www.stephanlivera.com/

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #StephanLivera #BitcoinPrice #PowerLaw #BitcoinAdoption #BearMarket #SelfCustody #Multisig #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 4 min
  • Is Your Bitcoin Setup Ready for the Worst? The Case for Timelocks

    What happens to your Bitcoin if you get hit by a bus tomorrow, and could your family actually access it, or would it be lost forever?

    Mike, product manager at Guardblock, joins Honest Money to tackle the hardest problems in Bitcoin self-custody: backups, inheritance, and staying secure in a world where AI is making attacks more sophisticated by the day. In the wake of the Coldcard hack, Mike explains why a single device is no longer good enough, how collaborative security using multisig and Bitcoin timelocks works, and how to make sure your coins reach your heirs without leaving a dangerous security hole.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Mike and Anja discuss self-custody, collaborative security, and Bitcoin inheritance.

    The conversation moves from the lessons of the Coldcard hack and recent data breaches, through the difference between custodial and non-custodial, single-sig and multisig, to how Guardblock's time-locked vaults add a co-signing key and recovery pathways without taking custody of your coins. Mike explains why self-custody still demands personal responsibility, how timelocks let you exit unilaterally if the company disappears, and why inheritance is the single biggest reason people are signing up.

    The episode also covers wills and letters of wishes, the privacy and trust trade-offs of collaborative security, which hardware wallets work with Taproot miniscript, the product's pricing, and why everyday people shouldn't need to be technical experts to keep their Bitcoin safe.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    After the Coldcard hack, a single device and basic setup is no longer enough
    AI tools are making attacks on Bitcoin self-custody more sophisticated
    Multisig removes the single point of failure that sinks single-sig setups
    Collaborative security adds a co-signing key so a stolen seed alone can't move funds
    Bitcoin timelocks create recovery pathways and let you exit if a provider disappears
    Inheritance is the biggest gap in self-custody, and the top reason people sign up
    Put a plan in a letter of wishes, never seed words or pins in your will
    Everyday people shouldn't need extreme technical skill to hold Bitcoin safely

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Meet Mike From Guardblock
    01:17 What the Coldcard Hack Taught Us
    06:15 Why One Device Is No Longer Enough
    10:01 Custodial vs Non-Custodial, Explained
    12:05 Single-Sig vs Multisig, Explained
    15:38 What Guardblock Actually Is
    18:45 How Collaborative Security Works
    24:11 How Bitcoin Timelocks Work
    26:40 The Recovery Pathways Explained
    37:00 The Privacy and Trust Trade-Offs
    40:26 The Bitcoin Inheritance Problem
    45:26 Probate, Wills, and Letters of Wishes
    48:47 Which Hardware Wallets Work
    01:03:00 Pricing and No Lock-Ins

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Guardblock: https://guardblock.com
    Guardblock on X: https://x.com/GuardBlock21

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #SelfCustody #Guardblock #Multisig #BitcoinTimelocks #ColdcardHack #BitcoinInheritance #BitcoinSecurity #Collaborativecustody #HardwareWallet #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 11 min
  • Are Bitcoin Treasury Companies Safe? Tim Kotzman Breaks It Down

    Are Bitcoin treasury companies safe, or is the boom built on hype? Bitcoin treasury strategy means navigating wild market volatility, where companies have traded from forty times the value of their Bitcoin down to pennies on the dollar. So how do you make sense of them, and what does it mean for investors?

    Tim Kotzman, a founding member of the True North podcast and a close watcher of Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset, joins Anja to explain how corporate Bitcoin strategy has evolved since MicroStrategy's first purchase in 2020. From convertible debt and preferred equity to the rise of digital credit, Tim breaks down the financial engineering behind companies like Strategy and Strive, and why conviction separates the winners from the rest.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Tim and Anja discuss Bitcoin treasury companies, financial engineering, and institutional adoption.

    The conversation moves from the failed Clarity Act, through the evolution of corporate Bitcoin strategy since 2020, to the mechanics of convertible debt, preferred equity, and digital credit. Tim explains why treasury companies aim for amplified Bitcoin exposure rather than an ETF's one-to-one match, how swings in book value create opportunity and risk, and what makes a strategy succeed or fail.

    The episode also examines how many treasury companies may survive, why the last cycle left some CEOs cautious, how self-custody of tokenised stock could reduce short selling, regulatory differences from Australia to Europe, and Tim's answer to the money printing criticism.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Bitcoin is a commodity, so it needs no regulatory clarity
    Corporate Bitcoin strategy has evolved fast since 2020
    Treasury companies target amplified Bitcoin exposure, not one-to-one like an ETF
    Book values swing from 40x Bitcoin held to pennies
    Conviction and a clean balance sheet separate the strong from the weak
    A few large players may dominate via digital credit
    Self-custody of tokenised stock could curb short selling
    The "money printing" criticism misreads what these companies do

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Meet Tim Kotzman
    01:02 The Failed Clarity Act and What It Means
    03:26 Why Bitcoin Doesn't Need Regulatory Clarity
    04:24 How Corporate Bitcoin Strategy Evolved Since 2020
    08:24 Wall Street Versus the Bitcoin Community
    13:01 Bitcoin Treasury Company or Bitcoin ETF?
    15:47 How These Companies Are Valued
    20:40 Why Strategy Sold Bitcoin at the Bottom
    24:07 What Makes a Good Treasury Company
    30:05 How Many Treasury Companies Will Survive
    39:10 Understanding MNAV and Bitcoin Per Share
    51:20 Global Regulations and the Australian Problem
    53:26 Tokenised Stocks and Self-Custody
    57:41 Is This Just Money Printing?
    59:44 Why Tim Started His Podcast

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Tim Kotzman on X: https://x.com/TimKotzman
    Tim Kotzman on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@timkotzman8925
    True North on X: https://x.com/TNorth
    True North: https://tnorth.com/

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinTreasury #MicroStrategy #Strategy #Strive #DigitalAssets #BitcoinInvesting #InstitutionalBitcoin #TimKotzman #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 3 min
  • How Bitcoin Became a Lifeline on the Myanmar Border

    What does it look like when Bitcoin stops being a price chart and becomes a physical community, a school, and a lifeline for people living under surveillance and near a conflict zone?

    Jimmy Kostro, founder of the Bitcoin Learning Center in Chiang Mai, shares how he built Asia's largest physical Bitcoin hub almost by accident. What began as a charity putting teachers in children's homes turned into off-grid solar mining, a four-storey education centre, and a Thai-language media operation reaching tens of millions. Jimmy explains why real Bitcoin adoption is built on local leadership, trust, and giving without asking for anything back.

    This conversation explores how a physical hub changes lives in ways an app never could, why you cannot manufacture legitimacy as an outsider, and what Bitcoin freedom means for people who keep two phones just to stay safe.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Jimmy and Anja discuss building Bitcoin community, financial education, and freedom in Southeast Asia.

    The conversation moves from Jimmy's unlikely path into Bitcoin outreach, through the off-grid solar accident that led to mining and a viral moment of global donations, to how an abandoned building became a four-storey hub with 500 members and seven full-time staff. Jimmy explains how the team won over local government and universities with a Bitcoin half marathon, how a single camera grew into a media arm with tens of millions of views in Thai, and why leading with generosity rather than transactions is what made the community take root.

    The episode also examines the real costs and funding behind a non-profit hub, why the model cannot be exported without local leadership, and Jimmy's work telling the stories of Burmese communities living under surveillance across the Myanmar border.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Asia's largest physical Bitcoin hub grew from charity work, not a business plan
    An off-grid solar system led to mining and a viral wave of global donations
    A physical space teaches saving and financial literacy in ways an app cannot
    A Bitcoin half marathon opened doors to local government and universities
    Consistent media turned one camera into tens of millions of views in Thai
    Leading with generosity, never a transaction, is what built lasting trust
    Real adoption needs local leadership that outsiders cannot manufacture
    Bitcoin freedom is a lifeline for people who keep two phones to stay safe

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Intro: Two Phones to Survive
    00:52 Who Is Jimmy Kostro
    01:14 From English Teachers to a Hill Tribe
    03:17 The Solar Accident That Started Mining
    05:30 The Viral Moment That Built a Community
    09:17 Bitcoin Adoption and Thai Culture
    14:03 The World's First Bitcoin Half Marathon
    16:45 Building a Bitcoin Media Empire in Thailand
    24:30 Why Real Adoption Means Giving, Not Selling
    27:45 The Real Cost of Running a Bitcoin Hub
    31:45 Why Bitcoin Communities Need Local Leaders
    40:23 Safety, Freedom, and Life Near the Myanmar Border
    47:51 One Myanmar and Life Under Surveillance

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Jimmy Kostro on X: https://x.com/JimmyKostro
    Bitcoin Chiang Mai: https://bitcoinchiangmai.org

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinMining #ChiangMai #Thailand #BitcoinAdoption #JimmyKostro #FinancialFreedom #Myanmar #SelfCustody #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    55 min
  • Why Bitcoin Might Be the Best Thing for the Planet

    Could Bitcoin, the technology so often branded an environmental disaster, actually be one of the most powerful tools we have for cleaning up energy and fighting climate change?

    In this episode, Daniel Batten, climate-tech investor turned Bitcoin-energy researcher, joins Honest Money to challenge almost everything you've been told about Bitcoin mining and the environment. Coming to Bitcoin from the energy side rather than the money side, Daniel lays out the peer-reviewed case that mining stabilises power grids, makes solar and wind more profitable, mitigates methane, and brings electricity to communities the grid has never reached.

    This conversation explores why the world may embrace Bitcoin as a solution to an energy problem before a monetary one, how mining became so misunderstood, and what it means to measure freedom by more than the movement of a price chart.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Daniel and Anja discuss Bitcoin's role in energy, the environment, and human freedom.

    The conversation moves from Daniel's unusual path into Bitcoin through climate tech, through the mechanics of how mining stabilises stressed grids, to the real-world examples that prove it, from the Swedish grid to the ERCOT grid in Texas. Daniel explains how mining monetises otherwise wasted solar and wind, why it pays back renewable projects years faster, and how off-grid mining is electrifying rural Africa through projects like Gridless.

    The episode also examines the methane problem and how mining turns landfill and vented gas into a climate win, why environmental misinformation about Bitcoin took hold, why the developing world may adopt this before the West, and Daniel's closing reflection on sovereignty, emotion, and what it really means to be free.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    The world may embrace Bitcoin as an energy solution before a monetary one
    Bitcoin mining can stabilise stressed grids, proven on the Swedish and Texas grids
    Mining monetises wasted solar and wind, paying renewable projects back years faster
    Off-grid mining is bringing electricity to rural communities across Africa
    Mining methane from landfills turns a potent greenhouse gas into a climate win
    Peer-reviewed research increasingly finds Bitcoin mining a net environmental positive
    Much of the "Bitcoin is bad for the planet" narrative is misinformation
    Real freedom means not being ruled by the movement of a price chart

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction: Bitcoin, Energy, and Freedom
    01:08 Daniel's Path From Climate Tech to Bitcoin
    02:25 Why the World Embraces Energy Before Money
    03:41 How Bitcoin Mining Stabilises Stressed Grids
    08:46 The Mechanics of Mining and the Grid
    11:57 Proof on the Swedish Grid
    15:02 The Texas ERCOT Grid Example
    19:17 Bringing Power to Rural Africa
    23:21 Gridless and Off-Grid Mining
    30:55 The Methane Opportunity
    39:46 Mining Landfill Gas
    43:52 Why the Developing World Adopts First
    50:33 Freedom, Emotion, and Sovereignty
    54:42 An Engineering Challenge With a Deadline

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Daniel Batten on X: https://x.com/DSBatten
    Daniel's Coaching for Bitcoiners: https://danielbatten.co/

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into Bitcoin and money literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinMining #Energy #Renewables #Methane #ClimateChange #DanielBatten #GreenBitcoin #Sustainability #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    56 min
  • The Big Print: How the Federal Reserve's Money Printing Will Affect You

    What happens when the systems holding up the financial world start to crack, and how do you protect your wealth before they do?

    In this episode, Lawrence Lepard, veteran investor and author of "The Big Print," joins Honest Money to make the case for sound money in an age of mounting systemic risk. Drawing on the history of monetary policy, the role of the Federal Reserve, and the lessons of past debt crises, Lawrence explains what could trigger the next major money print and why gold and Bitcoin may be the assets that matter most when it happens.

    This conversation explores the forces building beneath the surface of the global economy, the geopolitical events that could tip markets into stress, and the practical strategies investors can use to prepare rather than panic.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    Lawrence and Anja discuss sound money, systemic risk, and the future of inflation, gold, and Bitcoin.

    The conversation moves from the cycles of gold and Bitcoin, through the history of money and the evolution of Federal Reserve policy, to the great financial crises and the money printing that followed each one. Lawrence explains why gold and silver have preserved wealth across centuries, how Bitcoin fits into that story, and what current monetary policy, CBDCs, and stablecoins mean for the next chapter of money. He closes on the market signals worth watching and how to invest through a turbulent world.

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Sound money has preserved wealth across centuries of monetary upheaval
    The Federal Reserve acts as lender of last resort, and that role carries risk
    Systemic stress is building, and something in the system is likely to break
    Gold has historically moved first, with Bitcoin following more sharply
    Geopolitical events can be the trigger that tips markets into crisis
    CBDCs and stablecoins will shape the next chapter of money
    Watching systemic stress indicators helps investors prepare early
    Preparation, not panic, is the rational response to monetary risk

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction: The Cycles of Gold and Bitcoin
    02:03 The History of Money and Systemic Risks
    03:52 The Evolution of Federal Reserve Policies
    07:06 The Role of Gold and Silver in Wealth Preservation
    10:14 The Great Financial Crises and Money Printing
    15:08 Current Monetary Policy and Its Risks
    19:50 Geopolitical Events and Market Stress
    24:55 The Case for Sound Money: Gold and Bitcoin
    29:46 Potential Triggers for a Major Money Print
    34:47 The Future of Inflation and Asset Prices
    40:09 The Role of CBDCs and Stablecoins
    45:08 Market Signals and Systemic Stress Indicators
    50:10 Investment Strategies in a Turbulent World
    55:10 Final Thoughts: Hope and Preparedness

    πŸ’¬ JOIN THE CONVERSATION

    How are you structuring your portfolio against inflation right now? Drop a comment below.

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Lawrence Lepard on X: https://x.com/LawrenceLepard
    The Big Print: https://www.amazon.com.au/Big-Print-Happened-America-Sound/dp/B0DVTCWYNN
    Equity Management Associates: https://ema2.com/

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #Gold #SoundMoney #Inflation #MonetaryPolicy #FederalReserve #SystemicRisk #CBDC #TheBigPrint #BitcoinAustralia #FinancialSovereignty #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 5 min
  • Bitcoin: A New Monetary System, Not Just a Digital Coin

    What if understanding Bitcoin means unlearning almost everything you think you know about money?

    In this episode, John Pratt joins Honest Money to strip Bitcoin back to first principles, debunk the misconceptions that trip up newcomers and skeptics alike, and explain why Bitcoin represents a genuinely new monetary system rather than a digital version of the money we already have. From intrinsic value and monetary premium to scarcity and distribution, this is a ground up look at what makes Bitcoin work.

    This conversation explores why fiat paradigms get in the way of understanding Bitcoin, what critics of its fairness and distribution get right and wrong, and how a gradual societal shift toward a Bitcoin standard might actually unfold.

    πŸŽ™οΈ EPISODE SUMMARY

    John Pratt and Anja discuss Bitcoin from first principles, the myths around it, and where it goes next.

    The conversation moves from why Bitcoin demands a break from fiat thinking, through the "unsecured credit" misconception and the concepts of intrinsic value and monetary premium, to Bitcoin's scarcity, stock to flow ratio, and divisibility. John explains why early adoption and distribution dynamics shape the market, and what they mean for resilience.

    The episode also examines government responses, the importance of self-custody, the fairness criticisms Bitcoin faces, and what a future deflationary world on a Bitcoin standard could look like, including why volatility is the price of being early.

    πŸ”— FEATURED LINKS

    Follow JP on X: https://x.com/JP_Technology
    Sydney meetups: https://www.meetup.com/bitcoin_sydney/
    Bitcoin Asia: https://asia.b.tc/
    Origin Seoul: https://originseoulbtc.com/

    πŸ”‘ KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Understanding Bitcoin means unlearning the assumptions of the fiat system
    Bitcoin is a genuinely new monetary system, not a digital copy of old money
    The "unsecured credit" criticism misunderstands what Bitcoin actually is
    Intrinsic value is a myth, monetary premium is what gives money its worth
    Scarcity, stock to flow, and divisibility are central to Bitcoin's design
    Distribution and early adoption shape Bitcoin's resilience and fairness debate
    Self-custody is essential to holding Bitcoin securely
    Volatility is the price of being early, and adoption will be gradual

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction to Bitcoin's Revolutionary Nature
    01:55 Why Understanding Bitcoin Requires Unlearning Fiat Paradigms
    03:51 Bitcoin as a Genuinely New Monetary System
    07:02 Debunking the 'Unsecured Credit' Misconception
    10:12 The Concept of Intrinsic Value and Monetary Premium
    14:46 Bitcoin's Scarcity, Stock-to-Flow Ratio, and Divisibility
    20:06 Distribution, Early Adopters, and Market Resilience
    25:07 Government Responses and the Future of Bitcoin
    30:00 The Importance of Self-Custody and Security
    34:59 Criticisms of Bitcoin's Fairness and Distribution
    40:03 Market Reactions to Large Bitcoin Movements
    44:50 Bitcoin in a Future Deflationary World
    55:10 Volatility and Investment Strategies
    01:00:14 Gradual Adoption and Societal Shift Towards Bitcoin

    πŸ”— AFFILIATE LINKS

    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney

    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney

    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au

    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money

    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow Against Your Bitcoin Without Selling
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money

    πŸ“Œ ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW

    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical insights into financial sovereignty.

    πŸ”— CONNECT WITH US

    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow.

    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER

    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.

    #Bitcoin #BitcoinExplained #SoundMoney #MonetaryPremium #DigitalGold #BitcoinMisconceptions #SelfCustody #FinancialSovereignty #BitcoinStandard #BitcoinAustralia #MonetaryTheory #HonestMoneyShow

    1 hr 5 min

About The Honest Money Show

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The Honest Money Show is your guide to understanding what money really is, and where Bitcoin fits in. Hosted by Anja Dragovic, Australia's female-led, Bitcoin-only podcast, it cuts through the noise to explore how money shapes our lives, why the current system leaves so many people behind, and what a clearer, fairer future could look like.