Tyler and Scott sit down with Matt "Gonzo" — HOP's event coordinator, the driving force behind Project HOP, and owner of M2 Elite Tactical. Gonzo shares how he went from filming range videos with a Glock 19 (and no ammo in the gun) to running law enforcement training events that sell out in five hours.

The guys get into why police qualification standards are too low, what a 4-second draw means in a real fight, the red dot revolution, the gun evolution every shooter goes through, and why dry fire is the free training almost nobody does. Plus: building guns with your kids, first suppressors, and Shot Show war stories.

Law enforcement officers looking for a spot in a Project HOP class: email [email protected].

Welcome to the first episode of HOP Munitions’ podcast, where we sit down with our Founder, Shawn Payne; CEO, Joe Nook; Head of Marketing, Scott Witner; and General Manager, Tyler Flinn.