A conversation with Roman Kruglov on cybersecurity, purposeful AI adoption, and how jiu-jitsu teaches leaders to stay calm, adapt, and build trust under pressure.
Host: Adam Kleckner (Head of Strategy at LinkTech), Devon Walker (Head of Recruiting at LinkTech)
Summary: Roman Kruglov is a cloud, infrastructure, and cybersecurity leader with 30 years of experience spanning help desk, enterprise architecture, identity, zero trust, and AI strategy. He explains why security begins with people and basic controls—not an expanding stack of tools. Roman also challenges companies adopting AI without a defined problem, warns that automation can overload people and weaken common sense, and connects jiu-jitsu to leadership: keep learning, respond instead of reacting, protect your team, and continue showing up.
What help desk taught Roman about earning trust
Balancing user experience with security policy
Why cybersecurity failures often begin with overloaded people
How automation can increase work instead of freeing time
Starting with identity, onboarding, offboarding, and access reviews
Why tools cannot repair a weak security foundation
The risks of adopting AI without a defined goal
Distinguishing LLMs, SLMs, agents, and machine learning
What jiu-jitsu teaches about calm and adaptability
Building incident-response muscle memory as a team
Why leadership means mentoring and protecting people
"Trust starts with people."
"The company is nothing without its people."
"We are automating ourselves out of common sense."
"The foundation matters more than any new tool in cybersecurity."
"Companies are adapting AI, I think, without knowing why."
"No amount of tools or documentation can create that."
"Just keep showing up."
"There's too many managers, not enough mentors."
[02:09] Why Roman moved from MMA to jiu-jitsu—and embraced its real-time puzzles and problem-solving.
[05:04] The help-desk lesson that shaped his career: people return to the person who helped them, regardless of the tools behind the service.
[07:09] Security without unnecessary friction: follow policy behind the scenes while making the employee's job easier.
[09:48] How automation overloads people, accelerates decisions, and creates openings for social engineering.
[14:22] Roman's starting point: review identities, former employees, service accounts, and administrative access.
[17:00] Why "we're doing AI" is not a strategy—define the technology and the problem it should solve.
[19:24] Automating for its own sake: an impressive agent may still solve nothing worth the cost.
[22:29] The jiu-jitsu advantage: staying calm when executives are stressed becomes easier after someone twice your size tries to choke you.
[24:39] Responding instead of reacting becomes muscle memory through experience and repetition.
[26:21] During an incident, documentation is not enough; teams rely on practiced collaboration, adaptability, and trust.
[28:56] Roman's management philosophy: work alongside people, show up during emergencies, and push back when the team needs protection.
[31:26] Why loudly claiming a great culture may be covering cracks; real culture begins with leaders showing up.
[35:46] What never appears on Roman's résumé: his willingness to join any problem as a calm voice and thought partner.
Roman Kruglov: https://romankruglov.me/
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