The Human and The Machine

Join guest presenter Wendell Steavenson unpick the upsurge in Zoom use with guests including Rimma Perelmuter of Datum Future; Jet G.Sanders of LSE; Liz Moseley of Tortoise Media and featuring Charles Arthur’s Tech Trends.

This era of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning is transforming everything; the risk is that the human becomes outsourced, secondary. This series of podcasts explores this big question with key thinkers of the day – subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts.

Join us for the final episode of series 2,  as Astronomer Royal Lord Rees talks to Julia Hobsbawm and Charles Arthur about The Future.

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Julia Hobsbawm and Charles Arthur speak to Charlton McIlwain, Author of ‘Black Software: The Internet and Racial Justice from the Afronet to Black Lives Matter’; writer and commentator Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and writer Rohan Candappa.

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Julia Hobsbawm and Charles Arthur speak to Alex Hern, UK technology editor for the Guardian and Dr. Jack Stilgoe, Senior Lecturer in Social Studies of Science, University College London

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Julia Hobsbawm speaks to Emily Bell, Professor of Professional Practice & Director, Tow Center for Digital Journalism and Danny Shea, Chief Brand Officer, Thrive Global.

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Julia Hobsbawm and Georgina Godwin are joined this week by Baroness Martha Lane Fox, Founder and Executive Chair of Doteveryone; Professor Jeremy Bailenson, Founding Director, Stanford University Virtual Human Interaction Lab and Professor Ted Gibson, a Professor of Cognitive Science at MIT. They talk about internet safety, colour in culture, women in technology and virtual reality.

For afters, we’ve got Dolly Alderton, journalist, writer and director; Geoff Mulgan of Nesta and Tom Redmayne, Director of Business Development UK at WiredScore on techno-heaven, techno-hell and techno-shabbat.

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‘We as individuals I think are questioning our relationship with technology, especially when we see it used with children’

‘If there’s an experience that you wouldn’t do in the real world, not because it was dangerous or because it was expensive, but it was the kind of thing that you would feel bad about yourself, you wouldn’t be able to look yourself in the mirror that night, or you couldn’t hug your spouse, if there’s that kind of experience that just makes you feel gross, then don’t do it in VR.’

‘When we’re studying psychology, just the human mind and the human brain, we’re so far off from machines being able to generate useful hypotheses yet. I don’t think there’s any example even of that ever happening. The hypotheses come from humans.’

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Julia Hobsbawm is joined this week by Jessica Morris, Founder & Chair of Our Brain Bank and Dr Natalie Banner, the ‘Understanding Patient Data’ Lead at the Wellcome Trust. They talk technology, healthcare data and the importance of hope in medicine.

For afters, we’ve got Alice Thwaite, of the Echo Chamber Club, Carl Miller of Demos and Geoff Mulgan of Nesta on techno-heaven, techno-hell and techno-shabbat.

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‘Health data can be used for purposes beyond individual care.’

‘When it comes to health data, unlike other data that we share, you know, social media and so on, your health data is collected in the context of a very trusted relationship between the doctor and the patient. It’s characterised by confidentiality, that is the absolute bedrock of our healthcare system – you have to be able to trust that when you are talking to your doctor, that information is being held in confidence…so your health data is very sensitive, people feel very protective over it. And so I do think it does feel slightly different to other forms of data.’

‘To use the power and the influence that patients have and the desperation patients have to power through and make tech our servant in finding a way through.’

‘My data will be pooled with that of everybody else using the app. And that will be de-identified in a secure database, and aggregated, and made freely available to any qualified glioblastoma medical researcher in the world. And as we know increasingly, patient data is the sort-of medical currency of our age. It’s very problematic in many areas, and many people are trying to crack this nut. The way that we’re cracking it, and we think this has a good chance of working, is that it’s going to be patients taking charge of their data, patients accessing it, and patients making the decisions.’

‘The solution for people like me lies absolutely in the human, but also absolutely in the tech.’

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