We sit down with Terry Allen Helm — historian, author, genealogist, Cherokee Nation member, and lifelong storyteller — for a powerful conversation that spans Revolutionary War heritage, American commerce, family legacy, and the surprising ways technology and history collide.
This interview is packed with stories that stretch from 1066 England to Roman Caesars, from flat boats on the Arkansas River to data governance in the modern enterprise, and from Patrick Henry’s iconic speech to the dawn of AI.
US Revolutionary War Roots
Terry traces seven family lines who fought in the Continental Army and state militias — including:
Captain Nathaniel Terry, 10th Virginia Regiment, served 8 years
Captain William Gosse, wounded at Brandywine
Benjamin Merrill, executed during the Regulator Movement
Nathaniel Terry Sr., present for Patrick Henry’s “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death.”
These aren’t just names — Terry brings them to life through emotional, first‑person narrative history.
🚢 The Flat Boat Men
We explore Terry’s book Flat Boat Men, chronicling his grandfather and great‑uncle’s five‑month winter journey (1900–1901) down the Spring, Grand, and Arkansas rivers.
You’ll hear about:
How flat boats were built
Their role in early American commerce
Real logbook entries from the trip
Why flat boats still matter today
📚 Terry’s Other Works
A 100‑page Revolutionary War cartoon book for kids
Data Governance Warriors — a medieval‑kingdom metaphor for enterprise data governance
A writing style that blends historical accuracy with cinematic storytelling
👤 Terry’s Background & Heritage
27 years at AT&T, 3 years at Spectrum/Charter
Banking roles at Wells Fargo & Citigroup
Two master’s degrees in Information & Telecommunication Management
BA in History from the University of Texas
Former public school teacher in a district with 50+ spoken languages
Cherokee Nation member with deep Oklahoma roots
Member of Sons of the American Revolution and multiple hereditary societies
Traces lineage to three Roman Caesars and to the Helm family, who came with William the Conqueror
🖋️ Writing Philosophy
Terry’s research draws from:
Family Bibles
Courthouse records
Digitized archives
Volunteer work with the U.S. National Archives
Readers often tell him his stories move them to tears.
All four books were written while working 10‑hour days, often sparked by dreams he’d wake up to write down.
⚙️ Technology, Change & AI
We dive into:
How transportation evolved from horses to steam to flight
Why Roman roads still outperform modern ones
The Battle of New Orleans was fought after peace was declared
How AI mirrors past disruptions like photography and automobiles
Why AI still can’t replace human imagination
🌍 Personal Life & Family
Lives in Orlando, exploring communities before buying
Upgraded his podcast mic setup since our first attempt
Backpacking Europe in 1974
Mediterranean cruise honeymoon in 1995
Son hosts an international Bitcoin podcast
Father lived from horse‑drawn wagons to the moon landing and served in WWII
📦 Books & Availability
All of Terry’s books are available on Amazon and Goodreads in paperback and Kindle.
He recommends physical copies as family heirlooms for the 250th anniversary.
🎙️ Special Note
This episode includes a paid endorsement from Terry Helm to promote his books through The Human Journey.
He sent this after the interview,
"Thanks for watching! You can learn more about my books, Not Sunshine Patriots and The Flatboat Men, here.":
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Terry-Allen-Helm/author/B0GX6J3632?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=13e1768a-98be-4199-a74c-80d4bb5bc623.
If you enjoy deep history, family legacy, and the human stories behind America’s past — this is an episode you won’t forget.