The cyber security circle of information will always have some human involvement and raising awareness in how systems were designed, developed, used, and abused is critical. Today's guest is Dr. Jessica Barker. Jessica is an award winning leader in the human side of cyber security and has delivered face to face awareness sessions to over 50,000 people. She is a best selling author, international keynote speaker, media commentator, and serves on numerous boards, including the UK government's Cyber Security Advisory Board.

Show Notes:

• [1:00] - Jessica shares her background and her passion for educating people on cyber security.

• [2:34] - When it comes to personal experience, Jessica has not been a victim of a scam, but she has come close.

• [3:49] - Being vigilant is helpful but the right phish at the right time can catch any of us.

• [5:01] - Take a step back and talk to someone else. Seeing someone else's perspective is helpful.

• [6:43] - There's a fine line between scam indicators and marketing.

• [8:51] - There are always people involved. Jessica explains the elements of the human side of cyber security.

• [10:24] - There is an assumption that the younger generation don't care about cyber security, but it's not accurate.

• [13:14] - The majority of clients that Cygenta works with are corporate clients.

• [14:33] - Every organization has a security culture already, but what kind is it?

• [16:46] - Many departments within a company avoid cyber security and the security team and it creates an adversarial relationship and culture.

• [19:15] - Measuring the success of cyber security is a challenge.

• [20:57] - We need to consider our language when explaining cyber security attacks.

• [22:57] - Jessica's work primarily focuses on prevention.

• [28:20] - Chris shares the experience of seeing a problem but not knowing where it was coming from.

• [29:50] - It's important to mitigate risk while also not being so worried all the time.

• [30:57] - We all need education to help with critical thinking.

• [33:14] - Education also boosts people's confidence.

• [34:27] - It is important to have strong organizational values and the ability to tap into people's individual values.

• [36:01] - Cygenta has a free resource online called The Ultimate Guide to Cyber Security Culture.

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