The IDAAHub Podcast: AI Healthcare & Finance

In this new Innovation & Startups series, we break down Abridge — one of the fastest-growing AI startups in healthcare today.

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We cover the real founding story (it started with a cardiologist, a patient, and one sentence about dignity), how Abridge grew faster than long-standing incumbents like Nuance, what just happened with Abridge's Nvidia and Eli Lilly partnerships, and why this isn't really a scribe company anymore — it's trying to become the operating system for how care gets delivered and paid for.

We close with three takeaways every startup founder can learn from Abridge's playbook: why being first to market matters less than being first to solve the real problem, why credible partners can matter more than features, and why trust has to come before product in healthcare AI.

🎙️ Topics covered:

• The real Abridge origin story
• Why Abridge grew faster than Nuance
• Abridge's Nvidia + Eli Lilly partnership news
• 3 startup lessons every founder should know

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15 years ago, getting your medical records meant visiting the hospital, signing forms, and walking out with a photocopied stack of 5,000 pages. Today you can import the same data into an LLM and ask it what's wrong with you. That shift — and everything in between — is what Part 2 of this conversation is about.

In this episode, IDAAHub Podcast host Deepti continues her conversation with Dr. Timothy Martens — congenital heart surgeon at Northwell Health, Director of Data Strategy & Innovation at Cohen Children's Medical Center, PhD in Biomedical Engineering, and General Partner at Picap Fund — picking up at the question of patient data ownership and utility.

Dr. Martens explains what patients can realistically do with their health data today: how LLMs are replacing the photocopied records stack with an instant, queryable medical history, why EMRs are caught between federal mandates to open their data and the disruption that follows when they do, and what it means to build a true "living health record" that updates dynamically alongside a patient's care journey.

The second half of the episode traces a 25-year arc of healthcare data evolution that Dr. Martens experienced directly — from manually copying blood pressure readings row-by-row into Excel spreadsheets, to building relational databases and using HL7 for data transfer, to the emergence of data lakes and Tableau dashboards inside systems like Epic, and finally to today's AI-native stack. His core observation: the tools have changed dramatically, but the fundamental challenges of normalization, deduplication, and fuzzy matching across siloed systems remain structurally the same.

🧠 What you'll learn in Part 2:
→ What patients can realistically do with their health data right now — and where it still falls short
→ How LLMs are turning a 5,000-page records request into an instant, queryable health profile
→ Why EMRs are now in a difficult spot: penalized if they don't open up data, disrupted when they do
→ The 25-year arc of healthcare data: from copying blood pressures row-by-row into Excel, to HL7, to data lakes, Tableau, and AI — and why the core problems of normalization and deduplication never actually went away
→ How Dr. Martens built Mark Ventures as a venture studio, evolved it into an investing syndicate, and joined Picap Fund as General Partner
→ Why having a clinician on a VC investment committee changes which bets get made — and which ones don't

The episode closes with Dr. Martens' transition from clinician to investor: founding Mark Ventures as a venture studio to build and advise healthcare technology companies, evolving it into an investing syndicate as founder demand for capital outpaced demand for advice, and ultimately joining Phycap Fund as General Partner — where his clinical domain expertise directly shapes the fund's investment decisions.

Guest: Dr. Timothy Martens — Congenital Heart Surgeon, Northwell Health | Director of Data Strategy & Innovation, Cohen Children's Medical Center | General Partner, Phycap Fund
Host: Deepti — Founder, IDAAHub | IDAAHub Podcast: AI in Finance & Healthcare
[Part 1 available in the previous episode]

What if the healthcare system was never built to make you healthier?

In Part 1 of our conversation with Dr. Timothy Martens — congenital heart surgeon at Northwell Health, Director of Data Strategy & Innovation at Cohen Children's Medical Center, PhD in Biomedical Engineering, and General Partner at Picap Fund — we get into the structural truth most clinicians won't say out loud: the current system is optimized for billing, not care.

Dr. Martens breaks down why episodic 15-minute visits can't move the outcome needle, how wearable technology and direct-to-consumer biomarker testing are converging to create a parallel care layer outside the EMR, and why AI-powered startups are outpacing hospitals and universities at actually solving healthcare's hardest problems.

🧠 What you'll learn in Part 1:
→ Why Dr. Martens calls himself a "Technology Fedaykin" — and what the Dune reference reveals about his mission
→ The real reason healthcare workflows are structured around CPT billing codes, not patient outcomes
→ Why pediatric congenital cardiac surgery attracted a data-obsessed biomedical engineer
→ The "great convergence" of EMR, wearable, lab, and genetic data — and which companies are winning it
→ Why predicting heart attacks and Alzheimer's risk is already possible — and what's still missing
→ How the same dopamine algorithms destroying kids on TikTok could be flipped to drive healthy behavior

⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 — Intro & Dr. Martens' background
04:30 — Technology Fedaykin: the Dune philosophy behind healthcare innovation
06:00 — Healthcare is designed to maximize billing, not outcomes
07:00 — Why pediatric cardiac surgery attracted a data engineer
11:00 — EMRs are built for billing codes, not continuous care
16:00 — Wearables, biomarkers & the great data convergence
22:00 — Can AI actually predict a heart attack? What's still missing

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Hospitals lost $48 billion in revenue in 2025 from claim denials alone — a 25% increase year over year. In this episode we break down why Cerner EMR hospitals are structurally exposed to this problem, and how AI innovation is being built to fix it.

On April 22, 2026, Community Health Systems reported a $58 million net loss for Q1 — on nearly $3 billion in revenue. Leadership pointed to two compounding pressures: a challenging payer mix with fewer commercial patients, and a slow, steady ramp-up in claim denials that nobody's system was surfacing until it was too late.

Three weeks earlier, Kodiak Solutions published the most comprehensive analysis of hospital revenue cycle performance ever conducted — analyzing 2,300 hospitals. The number they found: hospitals lost more than $48 billion in revenue in 2025 from claim denials and uncollected bills. A 25% increase from the prior year. And the increases were specifically for lack of prior authorization and for medical necessity.

In this episode we break down exactly why hospitals running Cerner EMR are structurally exposed to these gaps — from the split between clinical and revenue cycle data models, to the inability to track true denial and appeal overturn rates, to the lack of machine learning needed to surface payer-specific denial patterns before they become systemic revenue leaks.

We then explain Bloom Value's patented enterprise visibility system — US Patent 20230260638 — and what cooperative machine learning engines, simultaneous real-time and historical data processing, and role-specific financial dashboards actually mean for a CFO trying to see where the money is going.

Big vendors have the brand name.
The sales team.
The client list.
So why credit unions walk away from all of that — and bet on a startup instead?
Because brand names don't customize for you.
Startups do.
In Part 2 of this IDAA Hub Podcast episode, host Deepti and Nupur Daruka — credit union tech executive with 20+ years in fintech — pull back the curtain on the vendor decisions, ROI frameworks and future predictions that every financial services leader needs to hear but rarely does.
📌 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:

Why credit unions are increasingly turning to startups over big vendors for AI
The real reason most AI pilots never reach production
Why measuring AI ROI in dollars alone is the wrong framework entirely
Trust + adoption + compliance — the metrics that actually matter
A 3–5 year prediction: AI as decision support, not decision maker
The biggest misconception keeping credit unions stuck in pilot mode
Why AI creates new work rather than eliminating jobs

⏱ CHAPTERS:
20:54 — AI vs. AI: The Fraud Arms Race
21:35 — Why Startups Win: Flexibility Over Scale
22:03 — The Problem with Big Vendors: They Won't Customize for You
22:44 — Customization Was Key — Startups Said Yes, Big Vendors Said No
23:31 — The Real ROI of AI in Finance
24:50 — Trust + Adoption = The True Success Metric
25:15 — Why Most AI Pilots Die Before Reaching Production
25:56 — Compliance as ROI: The Metric Nobody Talks About
26:32 — How Personal AI Use Builds Institutional Trust
27:48 — Models Get Better As More People Use Them
28:12 — Chatbots: Now Standard at Every Financial Institution
29:02 — Where Will AI Be in 3–5 Years for Credit Unions?
29:28 — AI as Decision Support — Not Decision Maker
30:53 — Medium Risk Automated; High Risk Still Needs Humans
31:37 — Future: Integrated, Real-Time, Explainable, Predictive AI
32:54 — Biggest Misconception About AI in Finance
33:51 — Take Calculated Risks in a Controlled Way
35:16 — AI Creates New Work, Not Just Job Losses
36:08 — 2026: The Year of AI Transformation

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Banks are years ahead of credit unions in AI adoption — but why? And what does it actually take for a credit union to catch up? In this episode of the IDAA Hub Podcast, host Deepti sits down with Nupur Daruka — a credit union technology executive with 20+ years spanning fintech, e-commerce, and banking — to answer exactly that. 

From a crisis-driven legacy code migration to building real-time fraud detection powered by AI, this is the ground-level story financial services leaders need to hear.

📌 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
Why credit unions are structurally slower than banks at adopting AI
How a major M&A event forced an urgent legacy-to-modern code migration using Claude and GitHub Copilot
The PII guardrails that must be in place before ANY AI scales in finance
The tiered risk framework: when AI can decide alone vs. when humans must stay in the loop
How fraud detection became the gateway AI use case for credit unions
Why rule-based fraud systems can't keep up — and how AI behavioral analysis fills the gap

⏱ CHAPTERS:
00:00 — Welcome & Introduction
00:25 — Meet Nupur: 20+ Years in Fintech & Credit Unions
01:15 — Where AI Adoption Really Stands Today
02:06 — The Legacy Code Crisis That Forced AI Adoption
03:59 — Regulatory & Capital Barriers at Credit Unions
04:52 — Templates, Guardrails & Starting Small
06:26 — Tools: Claude + GitHub Copilot in Action
08:06 — Vendor-Driven Architecture vs. Banks' Proprietary Systems
09:23 — Batch vs. Real-Time: The Core Divide
12:32 — Trust, Transparency & Auditable AI Decisions
14:00 — The Tiered Risk Approach Explained
17:36 — Fraud Detection: The #1 AI Win for Credit Unions
20:22 — Real-Time Fraud Response: Speed Is Everything
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About the Guest
Nupur Daruka is a senior technology executive with a proven track record leading engineering organizations, platform modernization, and data-driven transformation across fintech, financial services, and credit unions. Known for aligning technology strategy with business outcomes to deliver secure, scalable platforms in highly regulated environments.A trusted partner to executive leadership
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nupurdaruka/

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What makes an AI startup truly defensible in 2026?
Not your tech stack. Not your prompts. Not your UI.

In this episode, AI strategist Svetlana Makarova — who built and scaled AI solutions at Mayo Clinic — breaks down the only three competitive moats that actually matter for AI startups and why most founders are unknowingly building on quicksand.
If you're building an AI company or thinking about starting one, this is the framework you need before you write another line of code.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - The big question: What actually makes an AI startup defensible?
00:26 - Startup timing: "Best time is today, worst was yesterday"
01:00 - Why market validation beats over-investment every time
01:15 - White space opportunities vs. oversaturated AI markets
01:32 - Moat #1: IP and Data — the only real differentiation
01:41 - Why generative AI models are pure commodities
01:46 - "Everyone has access to the same models"
02:00 - "What IP are you bringing that no one else can replicate?"
02:16 - Moat #1 Deep Dive: Large organizations' decade-long data advantage
02:35 - The data acquisition challenge startups must solve from Day 1
02:57 - Why easily replicated value won't survive big tech
03:11 - The Google replication scenario (this is real)
03:30 - "It'll be a couple of sprints work for Google engineers"
03:36 - No-code tools make replication even faster
03:49 - Thinking seriously about differentiation and competitive moats
04:00 - Bigger ambitions = more visibility = easier to copy
04:15 - Unique data acquisition strategies
04:28 - The consulting trap: Custom solutions that don't scale
04:41 - Moat #2: Building repeatable SaaS vs. service businesses
04:57 - Moat #3: Network Effects — the moat Google can't sprint past
05:04 - Why time component creates defensibility
05:15 - Learning systems built into your product
05:25 - User feedback loops as proprietary data generation
05:40 - Why time to market is everything
05:49 - Get your POC to market and start learning immediately
06:14 - Faster to market = faster moat building
06:46 - The reality: So many similar solutions now
06:57 - AI code generation tools lowering every barrier
07:13 - "By the time you think about IP, someone asks ChatGPT"
07:22 - "Within a few hours, it would be out there"

💡 KEY QUOTES FROM SVETLANA:
"Generative AI models are commodities. Everyone has access to the same models. So what are you doing different than someone else in your space?"

🎙️ ABOUT THE GUEST:
Svetlana Makarova is an AI strategist, builder, and speaker with nearly 5 years of experience building AI in highly regulated healthcare environments, including Mayo Clinic. She's currently pursuing a doctorate in Applied AI/ML and advises companies across sectors on building defensible AI strategies. Upcoming TEDx speaker.
Connect with Svetlana: [LinkedIn URL]

📚 RELATED EPISODES:
→ Part 1:Ex-Mayo Clinic AI Strategist 
→ Part 2: Where's the ROI
🌐 IDAA Hub: www.idaahub.com — The marketplace connecting AI startups with enterprises in finance and healthcare.

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Which of the three moats are you actively building?
→ Data you own?
→ IP you can defend?
→ Network effects you're compounding?

Drop your answer in the comments. 👇
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If you've invested in AI and you're wondering why your P&L isn't showing the gains you expected, this episode is for you.
Svetlana Makarova, AI strategist who scaled solutions at Mayo Clinic, breaks down the biggest paradox in enterprise AI: Why 90% of companies report AI adoption while 95% see NO measurable P&L impact.
She reveals the truth about MIT vs. Wharton reports, introduces you to Solow's Paradox (history repeating from the PC revolution), and explains exactly what you need to do differently to see real returns.


⏱️ KEY TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - The ROI Question: AI adoption is soaring, but what about P&L?
00:56 - Wharton Report: 90% adoption, everyone's happy
01:24 - MIT Report: 95% of AI projects show NO measurable P&L impact
01:33 - Why these reports contradict each other
01:42 - What Wharton was measuring vs. MIT
01:55 - The Copilot/Gemini/ChatGPT adoption wave
02:09 - Companies seeing ROI: Tech-first firms like Netflix, Google, Meta
02:42 - Why custom solutions built on proprietary data win
03:02 - Productivity isn't always measured in P&L
03:11 - Employee satisfaction, time back, alleviating burnout
03:16 - Healthcare-specific: Burnout reduction as ROI
03:54 - To see impact: Build customized solutions with YOUR data
04:08 - Reality check: Takes years for change management
04:25 - Current state: Led by out-of-the-box tools
04:40 - Most AI projects avoid business-critical operations
06:00 - Introduction to Solow's Paradox
06:26 - PC Revolution: Companies invested heavily, saw no productivity gains
06:57 - "Where the heck are these productivity gains we were promised?"
07:10 - Recommended reading on Solow's Paradox
07:32 - The measurement problem: How you quantify determines what you see
07:45 - Organizations had to develop new metrics for computer ROI
08:01 - Out-of-the-box tools: Feeling productivity, becoming happier
08:28 - Critical insight: Unless you redesign workflows, don't expect change
08:47 - How to quantify: Tasks completed, time reduction
09:00 - Reengineering workflows and reassigning roles
09:13 - "If you're continuing to do things as you used to, how can you expect metrics to change?"
09:27 - Introducing AI alone doesn't translate to ROI
09:37 - Revenue ROI: Mission-critical systems, customer service, AI agents
10:02 - Attribution and goal-setting for AI agents
10:13 - Third bucket: Human value and workforce satisfaction
10:25 - Healthcare revenue is driven by workers who can't be automated
10:41 - Objective: Keep everyone healthy, happy, not overworked
10:55 - Service industries: Maintaining human-to-human relationships
11:09 - Soft metrics that deliver ROI but are hard to quantify

🎙️ About the Guest:
Svetlana Makarova is an AI strategist with nearly 5 years of experience building AI solutions in highly regulated healthcare environments, including Mayo Clinic. She's currently pursuing a doctorate in Applied AI/ML and advises companies across sectors on AI adoption strategy. Upcoming TEDx speaker on AI.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/svetlanamakarova/

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Host Deepti Kalghatgi : https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepti-kalghatgi/
🌐 Visit: https://idaahub.com

How are you measuring AI ROI in your organization? Are you tracking P&L, productivity, or human value metrics? Share your experience in the comments!
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Join us as Svetlana Makarova, AI strategist and former Mayo Clinic leader, shares her incredible story of breaking into healthcare AI and achieving remarkable success in one of the most regulated environments on earth.
🎯 What You'll Learn:
How to enter AI/healthcare AI without a technical background
The exact framework used to scale an AI solution 
Why healthcare's regulatory barriers are actually advantages
How to go from proof of concept to full deployment in record time
The critical mindset shift that separates successful AI leaders from everyone else

⏱️ KEY TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction & Happy New Year 2026
00:25 - Meet Svetlana Makarova: AI Strategist & Speaker
00:44 - Credentials: 15 years digital, 5 years AI, Doctorate in Applied AI
01:33 - Upcoming TEDx Talk Announcement
02:35 - How We Met at HIMSS North Carolina
02:58 - The Journey into AI Healthcare Begins
03:05 - The Challenge That Changed Everything
03:42 - AI as a Problem-Solving Tool
04:08 - Pre-ChatGPT Era: Learning in the Unknown
04:32 - First Project: Mayo Clinic Machine Learning
05:23 - Healthcare Regulation: Barrier or Opportunity?
05:37 - 3-Month Proof of Concept Success
06:00 - Scaling Across Enterprise in 12 Months
🎙️ About the Guest:
Svetlana Makarova is an AI strategist, builder, and speaker with years of experience in artificial intelligence, particularly in highly regulated healthcare environments. She's currently pursuing a doctorate in Applied AI/ML and has successfully led AI implementations at Mayo Clinic. Svetlana is also preparing for an upcoming TEDx talk on AI.

🔗 CONNECT WITH SVETLANA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/svetlanamakarova/

📱 ABOUT IDAAHub:
IDAAHub is the premier AI startup marketplace connecting innovative AI companies with enterprises in finance and healthcare. We help organizations discover, evaluate, and implement AI solutions that drive real business outcomes.

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Part 3 of our conversation with Kelly Cochran, Research Director at FinRegLab

As AI systems in financial services grow increasingly sophisticated—from traditional machine learning to generative AI and agentic systems—the question of guardrails becomes critical. In this episode, Kelly Cochran breaks down what responsible AI deployment really means in credit underwriting and financial services.

In This Episode:

Kelly explains two essential categories of AI guardrails: protecting data throughout its lifecycle and ensuring analytics models perform as expected. While machine learning models for credit underwriting have established transparency tools, generative AI models present entirely new challenges.

We explore the fundamental differences between ML models trained on curated financial data and large language models trained on vast swaths of the internet. Kelly discusses the transparency challenges of non-deterministic models—systems that might give slightly different outputs for the same inputs—and the serious implications of AI "hallucinations" in financial contexts where consistency is paramount.

The conversation turns to practical safeguards, particularly human-in-the-loop approaches. Kelly shares insights on the delicate balance required: keeping human reviewers engaged without becoming overly reliant on or skeptical of AI recommendations. We discuss how these safeguards must evolve as systems mature, balancing thoroughness with efficiency.

Perhaps most exciting is Kelly's vision for personal financial agents—AI assistants that could democratize access to quality financial planning. Currently, only 40% of U.S. adults work with a financial planner, dropping to just 20% among low-to-moderate income households. AI agents could provide personalized, accurate financial guidance to millions who can't afford traditional advisory services. From day-to-day expense management to long-term goal planning—even filing taxes—these tools could transform financial inclusion.

But Kelly emphasizes the critical importance of getting this right. When serving financially vulnerable populations, malfunctioning AI agents could make situations worse, not better. This requires rigorous testing, thoughtful design, and appropriate guardrails to ensure reliability.

Kelly also offers practical advice for consumers looking to improve their credit access, highlighting the growing use of cash flow data by lenders as an alternative or supplement to traditional credit scores.

Guest Bio: Kelly Cochran is Research Director at FinRegLab, a nonprofit research organization fostering data-driven dialogue about financial innovation. Her work focuses on ensuring technological advances in financial services benefit all consumers equitably and safely.

Resources Mentioned:

• FinRegLab research on cash flow underwriting
• Studies on AI transparency in credit decisions
• Consumer guidance on alternative credit data

Host: Deepti Kalghatgi, Chief Curator at IDAA Hub and VP of Sales & Partnerships at Cogniquest AI

The IDAA Hub Podcast explores the intersection of AI, finance, and healthcare, featuring conversations with industry leaders driving intelligent automation in enterprise operations.

Episode Timestamps: 00:00:24 - What guardrails do complex AI systems need? 00:00:40 - Two types of guardrails: data and analytics 00:01:18 - Difference between ML models and Generative AI 00:02:22 - Non-deterministic models explained 00:02:59 - The hallucination problem in financial services 00:03:42 - Transparency challenges with GenAI 00:04:02 - Human-in-the-loop strategies and limitations 00:15:14 - Personal financial agents: game-changing opportunity 00:15:50 - Access to financial planning statistics 00:17:25 - Financial stability and economic participation 00:18:03 -  Closing thoughts 

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