Scotty and John discuss Johns recent cycling accident, his secret project and yet another award. They also talk about Scotty's new scanner, NSOutlineView, NSTextView and Core Data.

John throws Scotty under the bus and has a discussion with Joe Crabtree, professional drummer and journeyman software engineer, about his work on the app PolyNome.

John discusses how dark mode support highlighted a usability problem and shares whereby ancient technology saved the day while Scotty reveals his concerns that Catalina is going to be the Vista of macOS releases.

Scotty and John discuss marching band, objects vs functional, working remotely, WWDC 2 months on, handling deprecations, knowledge sharing, daily stand ups and vists to the dentist.

The boys discuss Scotty's charity, the moon landings and how the world has changed but maybe hasn't.

John becomes a full stack developer and shares his experience with nodeJS and Visual Studio Code. Scotty shared his week setting up a Mac Mini build server to run Xcode bots. Scotty also looks forward to his 100km charity run this weekend.

Scotty and John discuss John's rapid rise to stardom with a chain of hack day victories as well as debating should people jump into Swift UI or wait for it to settle as many people did with Swift.

John sings, but don't let that put you off as it doesn't last long. John continues to give Stack Views high praise, and the boys discuss SwiftUI beta two. Scotty lets loose on the therapy couch about his troubles in making any technology decisions for the next MoneyWell release.

One week on Scotty and John discuss their reactions and theories about what all the things announced at WWDC are going to mean over the next year.

Scotty and John discuss all that was announced at WWDC and their initial reactions on how it will all affect them.