In today's episode, Gary and Vicki discuss the importance of tuning out financial news and focusing on long-term retirement planning. They emphasizes the need for a strong defense in addition to offense in retirement planning. The 4% rule is mentioned as a guide for withdrawal rates, but the conversation highlights the importance of considering individual circumstances and retirement time span. The conversation also touches on the topic of un-retiring and the motivations behind it, such as financial concerns, longer lifespans, and the desire for purpose and usefulness in retirement. 

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