The In Between Podcast

In this episode of the Wildfire Series Pt 6, Kez and Maddy explore one of the most misunderstood spiritual concepts: detachment. Rather than meaning passivity or “not caring,” we share why true detachment is about giving your fullest effort while surrendering your attachment to the outcome, timeline, and how everything unfolds.

Using the behind-the-scenes journey of creating our 2027 Greece retreat, we unpack the lessons we’ve learned about intuition, surrender, trusting divine timing, and building something in alignment instead of forcing results. We also dive into why breaking the “rules” of business, following your own unique blueprint, and creating spaciousness for intuition has become one of the greatest gifts in both our lives and businesses.

What We Cover: 

• Detachment isn’t passivity...it’s giving 110% effort while releasing attachment to the outcome.
• Why surrendering the timeline creates more peace, trust and alignment.
• The power of micro actions and consistent daily steps over chasing quantum leaps.
• Behind the scenes of creating our Greece retreat and trusting the vision before the evidence existed.
• How uncertainty can become an invitation to deepen trust instead of creating fear.
• Why following your intuition often means breaking traditional business rules.
• The importance of creating your own blueprint instead of copying someone else’s strategy.
• How retreats and immersive experiences create lasting subconscious and nervous system transformation through integration, not just inspiration.
• Why community, sisterhood and being deeply witnessed can accelerate personal growth and healing.
• A reminder that your biggest dreams unfold through a balance of intentional action, surrender, authenticity and trust in divine timing.

Chapters

(00:00) Intro and Life Updates

(2:05) The Realness of the Spiritual Journey

(03:57) What Does Surrender and Detachment Actually Mean?

(07:07) 110% Effort + Surrender Mindset

(09:59) Our Personal Journeys of Moving Through Uncertainty and Attachment 

(15:01) The BTS of Co-Creating the Greece Retreat and Trusting The Process

(19:56) The Significance of Divine Timing 

(30:05) Breaking the "rules" in Business, Following Structure and Intuition

(34:56) The Importance of Authenticity and Honouring Your Unique Blueprint

(45:00) The Role of Self-Trust and Discernment in Life and Business

Connect with Kez:

• Greece Retreat Private Access
• Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here
• Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here
• Instagram: @theinbetween_co 
• Website: The In Between 

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

In this episode of the Wildfire Series Pt 5, Kez and Maddy pull back the curtain on the conversations dominating the personal development and spiritual space, around ‘Quantum Jumping’ and ‘Timeline Hopping’, and share what they've experienced firsthand. Because while it can absolutely happen, it's rarely an overnight event, and if it is, it can often be more dysregulating than supportive. 

Through our own deeply personal stories, from Vipassana meditation, moving countries, launching our Greece retreat, unexpected and scary life events, and confronting our deepest fears, we explore what building capacity to hold expansion has looked like for us.

We dive into:

• What a quantum leap actually is (and isn't).
• How cultivating self compassion through loving awareness can be deeply supportive allowing old fears and subconscious patterns to rise so they can be witnessed with compassion.
• The difference between forcing transformation and allowing it to unfold.
• The power of witnessing your thoughts instead of identifying with them.
• Holding both your greatest fears and your greatest dreams with equanimity.
• The difference between chasing quantum leaps and allowing genuine, embodied transformation.
• How your capacity expands over time so you can sustainably hold everything you're calling in.
• Why embodiment is not bypassing is the foundation for lasting transformation. 

If you've ever felt like you're behind, asking yourself what this ‘quantum leap’ thing is and why it  isn’t ‘working’ for you as quickly as you desire, know that what is portrayed online is rarely the truth and we unpack its nuances in this episode. 

(00:00) What is Loving Awareness?

(03:30) The Practice of Witnessing Yourself

(05:20) Vipassana & Facing Your Worst Fears

(14:30) Why We Run From Our Emotions

(22:10) The Truth About Quantum Leaping

(24:30) When My Body Forced Me to Slow Down

(31:00) Your Nervous System Determines Your Capacity

(35:30) Why Quantum Leaps Are Misunderstood

(41:30) How We Created Our Greece Retreat

(44:00) Becoming the Person Who Can Hold the Vision

Connect with Kez:

Greece Retreat Private Access

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

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In this reunion episode of the Wildfire Series, Kez and Maddy reflect on everything that has shifted since their last episode. From Kez moving across the world to the US and the bts of this journey to building their Greece retreat, to navigating profound personal initiations inviting them to step deeper into their conscious evolutions. 

This conversation also delves into their thoughts and experiences with shadow work and why constantly searching for what's "wrong" with ourselves can keep us disconnected from our wholeness, offering an alternative approach; the Golden Shadow, a way to connect with the parts of ourselves that carry our gifts, our light and the qualities we often don’t realise reside within us.

We cover:

• Big life updates, Kez’s move to the USA 
• The Kabbalist Principle of Evil Eye and the importance of protecting your dreams while they're still in their infancy
• How collective fear shapes our beliefs and letting lived experience replace conditioned narratives
• Why discernment is more important than ever 
• Maddy’s reflections from Vipassana and learning to honour your own inner authority
• How black-and-white thinking is an illusory trap and embracing the beauty of the in-between
• A refined approach to Shadow Work aka the Golden Shadow and reconnecting with your innate gifts
• Parts Work, Compassion and loving awareness 

Chapters

(00:00) Welcome Back to The In Between Podcast

(3:07) Life Initiations & Episode Themes

(10:08) Greece, Elevated States Retreat 

(17:14) Kez’s Move to the US and Unplugging from Collective Noise

(19:33) Kabbalist Principle of Evil Eye

(21:25) US Stigma & Stereotyping 

(24:51) Home, Synchronicity and Identity

(29:18) Stereotyping and How it Keeps Us Stuck

(36:11) Discernment and Expanding Perspective

(41:10) Reflections on Vipassana

(48:59) Discernment as a Collective Theme

(51:30) Dark Feminine & Intuition 

(36:59) Shadow work - Jung, Freud 

(59:11) Power of Parts Work and Wholeness 

(63:31) The Golden Shadow 

(69:28) The Dangers of Shadow Work Without Discernment 

(72:27) Practical Ways to Use The Golden Shadow

(75:15) Loving Awareness as the Foundation 

Connect with Kez:

Greece Retreat Private Access

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

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In this conversation, Kez sits down with Katharine McLean, Holistic Counsellor, Business Energetics Mentor and Trauma Informed Practitioner, diving into her personal journey from battling with substance addiction during her 20s and 30s and the alchemy that led her into a path of healing, awakening and the spiral road back to self. 

Together they explore the roots beneath addiction, how it extends far beyond substances, often weaving into our lives in ways we may not consciously recognise, the transformational power of inner child work, subconscious reprogramming and the way that reconnecting with the infinite nature of our soul can shift us from victim consciousness into empowerment and purpose. At its core, this episode is about the courage to meet yourself in places we were once taught to abandon and the profound transformation that becomes available to us when we do. 

This episode is a testament to finding light in the darkness and learning to forgive, love and nurture our shamed parts back to wholeness. It doesn't matter where you have been or what you have walked through, when you learn to honour the journey, anything is possible.

Chapters

(00:00) Introducing Katharine 

(06:55) Katharine’s Journey

(14:54) The Impact of Alcohol and Addiction

(24:49) Understanding Addiction Beyond Substances

(33:37) Reparenting the Inner Child 

(46:20) Navigating Subconscious Beliefs and Trauma

(49:44) The Role of Safety in Healing

(53:30) Mentorship vs. Traditional Therapy

(56:25) Integrating Energy Healing and Spirituality

(01:00:43) Understanding the Akashic Records

(01:04:34) Embracing Uncertainty and Future Visioning

(01:22:26) The Power of Self-Love and Healing

(01:24:55) Awakening and Spiritual Practices

(01:28:31) The Journey of Sobriety and Spiritual Growth

(01:32:04) Embracing Authenticity and Overcoming Fear

(01:39:50) Influential Mentors and Spiritual Teachers

(01:48:45) The Transformative Power of the 12 Steps

Connect with Katharine Mclean 

Instagram: @the_light_becomes_her

Website: https://katharinemclean.com.au/

Connect with Kez 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Join the 2027 International Retreat Waitlist! 

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

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This is the Wildfire Series: a collaboration between Kez and Maddy. A three-part descent into the taboo, the depths of the psyche, and the art of learning to dance in the dark and finding your inner light. 

In Part 3, Kez and Maddy explore the courage it takes to show up authentically in the world and the inner work required to support this process. The conversation weaves together themes of fear, re-parenting, nervous system safety, belief patterns, and the journey of remembering who you truly are. Through personal stories and practical reflections, the discussion highlights how growth happens through small steps, curiosity toward our triggers, and the embodiment of wisdom rather than simply consuming information.

This episode delves into how:

• Two truths can coexist and people will perceive the world differently

• Fear doesn’t need to be eliminated to move forward

• Re-parenting fearful inner parts with compassion is the doorway to wholeness 

• Sustainable growth often comes through small, regulated steps rather than dramatic “leaps”

• Creating psychological and nervous system safety is essential before making major life changes

• Expanding your comfort zone means increasing your window of tolerance for different emotional experiences

• True transformation often involves untangling multiple patterns and narratives rather than a single limiting belief.

• We are moving from an age of information to an age of wisdom where embodiment and authenticity is more important than ever

As this series unfolds, Kez and Maddy invite you into the conversation. Share with them the themes, topics, taboos you would love to hear explored and brought into the fire.

Chapters

(00:00) Embracing Authenticity and Vulnerability

(08:15) Navigating Fear and Self-Discovery Through Parts Work

(11:06) Creating Emotional Safety Before Making Big Moves

(13:56) Expanding Comfort Zones and Financial Safety

(16:58) Humans Are Meaning Markers and We Attach Stories to Experiences and How This Keeps us Stuck

(20:10) Understanding Core Beliefs and Patterns

(23:15) The Journey of Re-Parenting 

(26:08) Moving From the Age of Information to the Age of Embodied Wisdom 

(28:59) Embodiment and Wisdom Comes from Integration

(32:12) Practical Steps of Self-Discovery and Values

(35:00) The Importance of Balancing Light and Shadow to Grow 

Join the 2027 International Retreat Waitlist!

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

Connect with Maddy:

Instagram: @bloominwithin_

This is the Wildfire Series: a collaboration between Kez and Maddy. A three-part descent into the taboo, the depths of the psyche, and the art of learning to dance in the dark and finding your inner light. 

Archetypically this series embodies the energy of Scorpio/ the 8th House in Astrology, transformation, power, shadow, intimacy, death and rebirth and ultimately transmuting pain into wisdom.  

In Part 2, Kez and Maddy explore how personal transformation often emerges from life’s most challenging moments. Together they dive into passion, healing and the role of safe relationships in helping process emotions, release conditioning and reconnect with who we truly are.

Through reflections on solitude, core values, embodiment and consciousness, the episode highlights how gentle, compassionate healing can lead us back to our authentic selves and aligned community.

As this series unfolds, Kez and Maddy invite you into the conversation. Share with them the themes, topics, taboos you would love to hear explored and brought into the fire.

Chapters

(0:00) Embracing Darkness and Alchemy in Transformation

(03:34) The Importance of Safe Spaces for Emotional Processing

(05:00) Deconditioning of Societal Beliefs Around Core Values 

(06:21) How Hypnosis and Visualization Unlocks States of Beauty and Peace

(11:59) Practical Tools for Discerning What Feels Right in Your Body

(13:32) Cultivating Emotional Flexibility and Nervous System Resilience

(15:34) Emotional Frequencies and the  Map Of Consciousness - Dr. David Hawkins

(16:33) Shame, Disconnection, and the Path to Integration Through Love

(18:48) Inner Parts Work  

(21:01) The Diversity of Human Experience Based on States of Consciousness

(22:20) Witnessing Different Perspectives Without Judgment or Attachment

(24:32) Standing in your Values to Attract Community and Your Tribe

Join the 2027 International Retreat Waitlist!

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

Connect with Maddy:

Instagram: @bloominwithin_

Website: Bloominwithin

An invitation to rate and review:

If this episode resonated for you, it would mean the world if you shared it with someone you love or left a review on Apple or Spotify. This is how you help ripple the energy forward and support these conversations reaching those who need them. Your voice matters, and so much more than you realise!

This is the Wildfire Series: a collaboration between Kez and Maddy. A three-part descent into the taboo, the depths of the psyche, and the art of learning to dance in the dark and finding your inner light. 

Archetypically this series embodies the energy of Scorpio/ the 8th House in Astrology, transformation, power, shadow, intimacy, death and rebirth and ultimately transmuting pain into wisdom.  

In Part 1, Kez and Maddy explore themes rising from the collective consciousness, the fall of narcissism and gaslighting, the alchemy of sacred rage, reclaiming your voice, standing firmly in your values and remembering who the f you are. 

They speak to the courage required to be seen in your shadow, the beauty on the other side, and the deep trust needed to surrender to the divine timing of your life. 

If you have been navigating big identity shifts, shadow, comparison and pressing against your growth edges that feels both expansive and confronting this episode is for you.

As this series unfolds, Kez and Maddy invite you into the conversation. Share with them the themes, topics, taboos you would love to hear explored and brought into the fire.

Join the 2027 International Retreat Waitlist!

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

Connect with Maddy:

Instagram: @bloominwithin_

Website: Bloominwithin

Chapters

(00:00) Magical Weekend and Synchronicities

(07:19) Big News: Co-Creating an International Retreat

(10:25) Journey of Self-Discovery

(13:15) The Power of Connection and Community

(19:28) Changing Patterns and Boundaries: Narcissism and Gaslighting 

(22:13) Personal Growth through Reframing Patterns and Moving Differently 

(28:20) Reclaiming Personal Power

(29:04) Eclipse Season: Clearing Cycles and Stepping into Power 

(33:22) Embracing Emotions and the Power of Pause

(35:40) Understanding and Alchemizing Rage

(38:23) The Journey to Joy and Self-Acceptance

(41:59) Navigating Envy and Comparison

(43:22) Sacred Rage and Personal Boundaries

(50:46) Energetic Sovereignty and Self-Identity

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If this episode resonated for you, it would mean the world if you shared it with someone you love or left a review on Apple or Spotify. This is how you help ripple the energy forward and support these conversations reaching those who need them. Your voice matters, and so much more than you realise!

In this deeply nourishing conversation, Kez sits down with Rose Cousens, co-founder of Soma Cacao, yoga and meditation teacher, and silent retreat facilitator, to explore the intertwining paths of cacao, love, meditation, yoga, silence, spirituality, and conscious business.

Together, they explore the synchronistic moments that gave rise to the brand we know and love today, and what it truly is like to build a business from the heart, one that is an act of devotion to self, community, and the wider collective. This episode is living proof that a soul-aligned, heart-led business can be both sustainable, successful and deeply considered. One where the wellbeing of people, the planet and community inform every decision along the way.

Rose also vulnerably shares about her personal journey, providing an honest window into what she has been navigating behind the scenes with her fertility journey and the complexity of holding a growing business alongside very human challenges.

Kez pulls an oracle card to anchor the conversation, offering guidance for what the collective needs to receive through this exchange.

This episode is deeply inspiring, heart-opening and honest, providing insight into what it truly means to let heart, intuition and devotion guide the creation of a sustaining business and life. 

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to Rose and Soma Cacao

(11:30) Rose's Journey: From Sydney to Mexico 

(17:08) The Love Story: Meeting Alistair

(19:34) Discovering Cacao

(24:13) Building a Sustainable Business 

(27:23) The Role of Silent Meditation Retreats 

(33:21) Navigating the Journey of Fertility 

(52:37) Trusting the Timing of Life 

(53:45) Guidance and Purpose Through Oracle 

(57:41) Influential Teachers on the Journey 

(01:04:02) Emotional Processing and the Human Experience 

(01:08:13) Richard Rudd’s Dragonfly Metaphor: Transformation and Freedom 
(01:17:50) The Art of Contemplation and Presence 

(01:20:01) Heart-Led Business and Authenticity

SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

Connect with Rose Cousens: 

Website: Rose Cousens Yoga

Instagram: @rose.cousens.yoga

Silent Retreats

Portugal YTT

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

In the first episode back for 2026, Kez sits down with Kim Parry, Homeopath, Trauma Counsellor and Homeopathy Educator at RMDY Academy, for a deep and grounded conversation on the power of Homeopathy as a catalyst for intergenerational healing.

Together, they explore Homeopathy as a modality that works with the body’s vital force, supporting balance, coherence and self-healing from the inside out. The conversation uncovers how Homeopathy addresses the root imprints behind illness and recurring ailments, including inherited patterns, emotional suppression and unresolved family trauma, working with the body’s innate intelligence to create lasting change across generations.

They also delve into the practical applications of Homeopathy for everyday ailments, offering insight and awareness for mothers with young children who may feel drawn to more holistic and natural approaches to health. Kim shares her own journey into Homeopathy and healing, reflecting on the importance of emotional literacy, working with emotions rather than suppressing them, and the role of radical acceptance as a pathway to deeper and more sustainable healing.

This conversation is an invitation to question what we have been taught about health, to reconnect with your body’s innate intelligence, and to remember that the body is always communicating with us. For anyone feeling called to heal at the root and break cycles of intergenerational trauma, this episode is for you.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to Finding Homeopathy

(25:21) Understanding Homeopathy: Principles and Practices

(35:21) The Role of Miasms in Homeopathy and Healing

(45:00) Intergenerational Healing and Personal Transformation

(55:26) Understanding Homeopathy and Miasmatic Theory

(57:47) The Historical Context of Homeopathy

(01:05:59) The Impact of Big Pharma on Homeopathy

(01:17:29) Emotional Healing and Homeopathy

(01:26:04) Personal Journeys and Transformations through Homeopathy

(01:34:55) Confronting the Past: Acknowledging Father Issues

(01:38:05) Radical Acceptance: The Key to Change

(01:41:49) Alchemy of Healing: Transforming Trauma into Growth

(01:45:29) Homeopathy: A Gentle Approach to Healing

(01:51:57) Navigating Parenthood: Homeopathy for Children

(01:58:11) Integrating Modalities: The Balance of Homeopathy and Western Medicine

(01:59:40) 2026 Plans: Empowering Women Through Healing Courses

Connect with Kim Parry: 

Website: https://www.kimparry.com.au/

Instagram: @kim.parry.homeopathy

RMDY Academy: https://rmdyacademy.org/ 

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off

Emotional Literacy Exercise

Centre for Homeopathic Education Free Prescriber Course 

In this episode, Kez sits down with Gemma Linnell, Body Energetics Practitioner and Holistic Myotherapist, to explore the terrain of healing. The places where the body whispers long before the mind catches up. The places where trauma shapes pain, resilience, and the way we learn to reconnect with ourselves again.

Gemma shares her path from traditional Myotherapy into intuitive-led bodywork, and how she now weaves both science and energetics to empower her clients to reconnect with their bodies. This is a raw and honest episode where Gemma shares her journey of battling with chronic physical health conditions, how this reshaped her identity and direction, and the profound impact of the sudden loss of her mother. Through grief, Gemma’s heart cracked open, revealing the intersection between spirit and science, and a deeper understanding of the body as both messenger and guide.

Together, we explore the mind, body, and spirit connection, the body as the gateway to healing, and the intersection of spiritual awakening, grief, and identity. We speak about Gemma building a business in her early twenties, how her work has evolved over time, and the role alternative and holistic healing methods have played in her personal life and professional practice.

This episode is for anyone walking the non-linear road of healing, anyone holding pain in their body, and anyone wanting to understand the emotional and spiritual root system beneath physical discomfort.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to Gemma and our Meeting 

(02:47) The Connection Between Mind and Body

(05:57) The Role of Trauma in Physical Pain

(08:49) Integrating Different Healing Modalities

(11:45) Listening to Your Body's Signals

(14:47) The Importance of Feeling Safe in Your Body

(17:37) The Journey of Self-Discovery and Healing

(21:00) Gemma's Personal Story and Background

(23:49) The Impact of Childhood Experiences on Healing

(26:50) The Role of Coaches and Mentors in Growth

(29:39) Facing Health Challenges and Finding Purpose

(51:51) Healing and Resilience

(53:16) Life After Tumor: Embracing Change

(54:12) Facing Devastation: The Return of Illness

(55:54) Chronic Pain and Personal Growth

(56:59) Overcoming Fear: The Journey to Needling

(01:01:25) The Birth of a Business: A New Chapter

(01:06:45) Tragedy Strikes: Gemma’s Sudden Loss

(01:11:38) Navigating Grief and Responsibility

(01:16:15) Workaholism as a Coping Mechanism

(01:19:04) Spiritual Awakening Through Loss

(01:37:57) Mentorship and Personal Transformation

Connect with Gemma Linnell:

Website: Mornington Peninsula Health

Instagram: @alivewithgem

Connect with Kez: 

Instagram: @theinbetween_co 

Website: The In Between 

Apply to work 1:1 with Kez here

Order your Soul Print ~ Your Personalised Astrological Blueprint here

Cacao Lovers: If you’re a Cacao lover like me, and want to try the most incredible Cacao you will ever find, look no further than SomaCacao: code SOMA_KEZ10 for 10% off