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  • Fireless Malware, we think not - Ep 014

    Recorded June 2020

    TOPIC: Fileless Malware, we think NOT
    The Incident Response Podcast - Ep 014
    Brain and Michael
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    OUR SPONSORS:

    OUR GUESTS WILL BE:

    • Tyler Hudak - Practice Lead, Incident Response - TrustedSec

      • @secshoggoth

      • www.trustedsec.com

    • Martin Brough - Cybersecurity Expert for Acronis

      • @TheHackerNinja

      • Website - infosec512.com

    Upcoming Training:
    • SANS DFIR Summit - Running Processes, the Red Team and Bad Actors are using them

      • July 17-18

    • Article in eForensics Magazine on ARTHIR covered in Episode 011

      1. Visit the website and register to get the free edition

    • BSides Cleveland - Tyler’s Forensic Analysis

      1. Friday June 19th - Tactical WIndows Forensics

      2. https://www.bsidescleveland.com/training

      3. Will be held and/or released at another event soon

    • Preparing for an Incident - NCC Group webinar.. Free to all

      1. July 22nd

      2. newsroom.nccgroup.com/events

    Job Opp:
    • NCC Group has a position, remote, Incident Response engineer, with AWS, GCP, Azure experience.  You get to work with ME.

      • https://nccgroup.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/NCC_Group/job/Manchester/Senior-Cyber-Incident-Response_R2595

    NEWS-WORTHY:Cylance blocks LOG-MD-Premium Running Process check
    • Ticket opened, users must exclude LOG-MD from being checked

    Windows malware opens RDP ports on PCs for future remote access
    • https://www-zdnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/windows-malware-opens-rdp-ports-on-pcs-for-future-remote-access/

    Exploit code for wormable flaw on unpatched Windows devices published online
    • (SMBGhost) - Processing of a malformed compressed message - Eternal Darkness/SMBGhost affects version 3.11 of the protocol, which as ThreatPost points out, is the same version that was targeted by the WannaCry ransomware a couple of years ago

    The US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) strongly recommends using a firewall to block SMB ports from the internet and to apply patches to critical- and high-severity vulnerabilities as soon as possible

    ENABLE THE WINDOWS FIREWALL !!!! BLock SMB to workstations, and you will get better logging too ;-)
    • https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/06/exploiting-wormable-flaw-on-unpatched-windows-devices-is-about-to-get-easier/

    Microsoft warns of vulnerabilities in SMBv3 (Eternal Darkness)
    • Microsoft warns of vulnerabilities in SMBv3

    Netwalker Fileless Ransomware Injected via Reflective Loading
    • https://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/netwalker-fileless-ransomware-injected-via-reflective-loading/

    80% of hacking-related breaches leverage compromised credentials
    • https://securityboulevard.com/2020/06/80-of-hacking-related-breaches-leverage-compromised-credentials/

    SITE-WORTHY:
    • THE IR Crew

      1. MITRE ATTACK

        1. https://attack.mitre.org/

      1. Guest - Tyler

        1. https://www.incidentresponse.com/playbooks/

      2. Guest - Martin

        1. Sandbox - https://app.any.run

    TOOL-WORTHY:
    • The IR crew

      1. LOG-MD-Professional

      2. Volatility

    • Guest 1 - Tyler

      1. MFTECmd

        1. https://github.com/EricZimmerman/MFTECmd/releases

        2. KAPE, or rawcopy, or other tools to capture MFT before processing

    • Guest 2 - Martin

      1. NetworkMiner

        1. https://www.netresec.com/?page=NetworkMiner

    MALWARE OF THE MONTH:

    Dridex fileless malware:

    1. Key Detection points

      • Well… in memory only “fileless”

      • Rundll32 calling malicious DLL 

      • Parent Child relationship

      • Rundll32.exe calling SysWow64\Rundll32.exe

      1. PREVENTION

        1. Scan email attachments

        2. Block Macro execution

        3. Block uncategorized websites

        4. Application Whitelist Users directory

        5. Lock down PowerShell

        6. EDR

    TOPIC OF THE DAY:

    Fileless Malware, we don’t think so
    1. What is “Fileless Malware”?

      1. Cyberreason - Unlike file-based attacks, fileless malware does not leverage traditional executable files. Fileless attacks abuse tools built-in to the operating system to carry out attacks. Essentially, Windows is turned against itself.

    Without an executable, there is no signature for antivirus software to detect. This is part of what makes fileless attacks so dangerous - they are able to easily evade antivirus products.

    1. McAfee - Fileless malware is a type of malicious software that uses legitimate programs to infect a computer. It does not rely on files and leaves no footprint, making it challenging to detect and remove.

    2. CarbonBlack - Fileless malware refers to a cyberattack technique that uses existing software, allowed applications, and authorized protocols to carry out malicious activities.

    3. WikiPedia - Fileless malware is a variant of computer related malicious software that exists exclusively as a computer memory-based artifact i.e. in RAM.

    It does not write any part of its activity to the computer's hard drive meaning that it's very resistant to existing Anti-computer forensic strategies that incorporate file-based whitelisting, signature detection, hardware verification, pattern-analysis, time-stamping, etc., and leaves very little by way of evidence that could be used by digital forensic investigators to identify illegitimate activity.

    As malware of this type is designed to work in-memory, its longevity on the system exists only until the system is rebooted.

    MGs definition

    1. So what do WE think Fileless Malware is?

      1. The IR crew

      2. Tyler

      3. Martin

    2. A better way to define Fileless Malware and WHY

      1. Memware

      2. Regware

      3. WMIware

      4. PowerShellware

      5. Wormware

      6. LolBin/LolBasware

      7. And malware

      8. .NETware compile on the fly (compileware)

      9. bootware

    3. How does this change our evaluation of malware?

    4. How does this change our IR or THreat Hunting process?

    5. How does this change how we detect and alert on malware?

    6. Final thoughts

    Other Articles:

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    Cybereason - FILELESS MALWARE 101: UNDERSTANDING NON-MALWARE ATTACKS 

    • https://www.cybereason.com/blog/fileless-malware

    McAfee - What Is Fileless Malware?

    • https://www.mcafee.com/enterprise/en-us/security-awareness/ransomware/what-is-fileless-malware.html

    1 hr 28 min
  • Getting back to basics, IR 101 - Episode 013

    Recorded May 2020

    TOPIC: Getting back to basics, IR 101
    Getting back to basics, IR 101 - Ep 013
    Brain and Michael
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    OUR SPONSORS:
    NEWS-WORTHY:Best EDR Security Services In 2020 for Endpoint Protection
    • https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/edr-security-services/

    How to Avoid Spam—Using Disposable Contact Information
    • https://www.wired.com/story/avoid-spam-disposable-email-burner-phone-number/

    Shiny new Azure login attracts shiny new phishing attacks
    • https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/05/18/shiny-new-azure-login-attracts-shiny-new-phishing-attacks/

    Upgrading from EDR to MDR is Critical but Easier than You Think
    • https://securityboulevard.com/2020/05/upgrading-from-edr-to-mdr-is-critical-but-easier-than-you-think/

    The ransomware that attacks you from inside a virtual machine
    • https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/05/22/the-ransomware-that-attacks-you-from-inside-a-virtual-machine/

    SITE-WORTHY:Malware Archaeology - Cheat Sheets
    • https://www.MalwareArchaeology.com/cheat-sheets

    TOOL-WORTHY:LOG-MD - The Log anD Malicious Discovery tool
    • “LOG-MD -a” will give you how you compare against the cheat sheets

    • https://www.LOG-MD.com

    MALWARE OF THE MONTH:

    Qakbot

    • Typical delivery via a Office doc or URL

    • Created a folder in C:\Users

    Key Detection points

    • Enable better logging AutoRuns - Uses Run key and Scheduled Task

    • WMIPrvSe launch binary in C:\Users

    • Binary in root of \Username directory C:\Users\\.exe

    • C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\ Syswow64\Explorer.exe used Parent of Explorer.exe is NEVER a binary in C:\Users

    • Process injection of Syswow64\Explorer.exe

    • Ping 127.0.0.1

    • Scheduled Task created by a binary in C:\Users

    • Syswow64\Explorer,exe opening all the browsers

    • Binary in C:\User calling out to foreign country

    PREVENTION

    • Block Office macros

    • Don’t allow uncategorized websites

    • EDR Software

    • Whitelisting C:\Users

    TOPIC OF THE DAY:

    Getting back to basics, IR 101

    What is getting back to basics - IR 101

    • This will likely be multiple episodes

    • We will start with Windows

    Why is this important?

    1. WHEN you have an incident, data we, and you need will be available

    2. This is probably the #1 finding and recommendation we have made to organizations we have been involved with over the years

    3. Security tools fail, so other data you collect can help discover what happened where, when, and how

    What is the problem we are wanting our listeners to solve? 

    1. To be better prepared in the event of an incident to speed up investigations

    2. Give your SOC, IT, or Security people the data they need to investigate events

    3. Make log management data better if you are collecting all the things

    4. And of course… help your IR Consultancy do a better job FASTER

    Other Articles:

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    CIS Benchmarks

    • https://www.cisecurity.org/cis-benchmarks/

    DerbyCon talk on EDR

    • https://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon7/t416-edr-etdr-next-gen-av-is-all-the-rage-so-why-am-i-enraged-michael-gough

    DerbyCon talk on Winnti

    • https://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon5/teach-me01-a-deep-look-into-a-chinese-advanced-attack-understand-it-learn-from-it-and-how-to-detect-and-defend-against-attacks-like-this-michael-gough

    51 min
  • Ep 012 - Laughing at Binaries - LOLBin/LOLBas

    Formerly the Brakeing Down Incident Response Podcast

    Recorded Oct 2019

    TOPIC: Laughing at Binaries - LOLBin/LOLBas

    OUR GUEST WILL BE:

    • Oddvar Moe, Sr. Security Consultant TrustedSec - Red Teamer

    • @Oddvarmoe

    • Blog - https://oddvar.moe/

    • lolbas-project.com

    • https://github.com/api0cradle/UltimateAppLockerByPassList

    • https://github.com/api0cradle/PowerAL

    The Incident Response Podcast - 012
    Brain and Michael
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    OUR SPONSORS:
    NEWS-WORTHY:Cyber Security Awareness Month
    • Share something that can help SMBs, your family or friends 

    Flaw with SUDO that lets you get admin priv when denied
    • Patch patch patch...

    Microsoft Enables Tamper Protection by Default for all Windows 10 Users to Defend Against Attacks
    • https://go.newsfusion.com//security/item/1524577

    Most Americans do not know what MFA is????
    • https://securityboulevard.com/2019/10/most-americans-dont-know-what-2fa-is-pew-research-shows/

    Hackers bypassing some types of 2FA security FBI warns
    • https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/10/11/hackers-bypassing-some-types-of-2fa-security-fbi-warns/

    SITE-WORTHY:
    • Malware Archaeology Logging tips - List of Binaries to monitor

      • https://www.malwarearchaeology.com/logging

    Guest - LolBin/LolBas - api0cradle - aka Oddvar Moe

    • https://lolbas-project.github.io/

    • https://github.com/LOLBAS-Project/LOLBAS

    • https://gtfobins.github.io/

    • http://www.hexacorn.com/blog/

    TOOL-WORTHY:
    • HUMIO - Free 2GB/day 7 day retention

      • https://www.Humio.com

    Guest:

    • https://github.com/PowerShellMafia/CimSweep - Matt Graeber – Agentless using CIM/WMI

    • http://nirsoft.net/ (DLL Export viewer, Reg DLL View, Password recovery, network tools +++)

    • Get injected-thread by Jared Atkinson - https://gist.github.com/jaredcatkinson/23905d34537ce4b5b1818c3e6405c1d2

    • https://github.com/Neo23x0/sigma - Standardized ruleset for SIEMs

    MALWARE OF THE MONTH:

    New Dridex version

    1. Delivered via Office document or Email with URL

    2. wscript/csript downloads bad binary named Chrome.exe

    3. Calls Scheduled task for persistence

    4. Chrome calls msra.exe for comms

      1. C:\Windows\syswow64\Msra.exe chrome.exe

    1. So another LOLBin ?  This is what prompted this podcast

    TOPIC OF THE DAY:

    Laughing at Binaries - LOLBin/LOLBas

    What is a LOLBin and LOLBas?

    1. It stands for Living off the Land Binary and Scripts

    2. Libraries too, Dlls

    What started all this?

    1. @SubTee Casey Smith efforts on Application Whitelisting bypasses from 2015 ish where he found ways to use existing binaries on the system to do bad things like RegSvr32, RegAsm, RunDll32, and several others

    Why are these an issue for us Defenders?

    1. Well Pentesters and Red Teams use them to get around security solutions like AV, EDR and App Whitelisting

    Do these normally execute?  If so how noisy are they?

    1. Some are noisy

    What do we need to watch out for?

    1. Command line parameters are key

    2. What is are the parameters they are executing with these utilities

    Are there any lists people can use?

    1. Malware Archaeology Logging page has a list and link to Oddvar’s page

    What about security solutions, do we need to be concerned with these?

    1. Yes, many AV and EDRs will not have alerts for these items

    2. You will need to build some alerts and filter out the good/noise

    What about logging theme?

    1. Use the list(s) and build a lookup list that you can add to 4688 events or Sysmon 1 and 7 events and monitor them

    What about MITRE ATT&CK, do they reference these?

    1. Yes, there are several of these mentioned in MITRE ATT&CK, so map your tools to ATT&CK Techniques

    Are there ways to test for these LOLs

    What else do people need to watch out for?

    Other Articles:

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    Casey Smith @SubTee - Red Canary

    Bypassing Application Whitelisting

    SHMOOCon 2015 -

    • https://youtu.be/XVuboBH5TYo

    SANS

    • https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-summit/archives/file/summit-archive-1524509113.pdf

    DerbyCon 2016 - 

    • http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon6/522-establishing-a-foothold-with-javascript-casey-smith

    DerbyCon 2019 - 

    • http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon9/stable-28-net-manifesto-win-friends-and-influence-the-loader-casey-smith

    Oddvar Moe talk on LOLBin at DerbyCon 2018

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiYTdmZ8GR4

    Alternate Data Streams:

    • https://gist.github.com/api0cradle/cdd2d0d0ec9abb686f0e89306e277b8f

    50 min
  • BDIR Podcast Episode-010

    Newsworthy Items: • INSURANCE COMPANY REFUSES TO PAY NOTPETRYA BILL, SAYS IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR, COMPANY SUES FOR $100M • 2-FACTOR AUTH BYPASSED ??? • 773 MILLLLLION PASSWORDS CIRCULATING THE INTERNET FROM PAST BREACHES • BYPASS BLACKLISTED WORDS FILTER (OR FIREWALLS) VIA WILDCARDS Malware of the month - First Sednit UEFI Rootkit Unveiled Site-worthy - websites of the trade to share Tool-worthy - some tools of the trade to share

    1 hr 19 min
  • BDIR Podcast Episode-008

    Newsworthy Items: 1. NSS Labs fires off anti-malware-testing lawsuit at infosec toolmakers 2. Gartner says EDR will be a 1.5 BILLION, with a B business by 2020 3. Forrester Report on is EDR overblown

    51 min
  • BDIR Podcast Episode-007

    Newsworthy Items: ----------------------- After Sept 21st Credit Freezes are FREEEEEE - Article - by Krebs "Do you use a Tumi bag? Registered it with Tumi's Tracer service? British airways website hacked 380K users affected How Hackers Slipped by British Airways' Defenses - Wired Hackers Can Steal a Tesla Model S in Seconds by Cloning Its Key Fob - WIRED Exploit vendor drops Tor Browser zero-day on Twitter - zdnet Bad Actors Sizing Up Systems Via Lightweight Recon Malware Site-worthy - websites of the trade to share Tool-worthy - some tools of the trade to share Malware of the month - EMOTET

    1 hr 6 min
  • BDIR Podcast Episode-006

    Newsworthy Items: The most expensive Cyber attack EVER !!! (wired) City of Atlanta 17 million ransom attack APT32 proves what we say about logging - Monitor Scheduled Tasks Malware of the month - None, so send us something interesting... Site-worthy - websites of the trade to share Tool-worthy - some tools of the trade to share

    1 hr 30 min
  • BDIR Podcast Episode-005

    Newsworthy Items - New Sysmon and Autoruns versions released. Be careful of VirusTotal uploads Malware of the month - None, so send us something interesting... Site-worthy - websites of the trade to share Tool-worthy - some tools of the trade to share

    1 hr 37 min

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