Michael Herbert is a historian and the writer of the forthcoming biography, "Don't Believe Everything You See" - The Life and Writings of Malcolm Hulke. The book is due to be published by Telos Publishing some time in 2025.

Michael joins us to speak about "Mac's" career including his early television and colaborations, and the importance of his work in Doctor Who on television and in books.

We also take a closer look at Doctor Who and the Cave Monsters audiobook read by Caroline John, during our discussion.

Theme music by Joe Kraemer.

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