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In this episode, Dr Simon McKenzie talks with Scott Wilkie about the infrastructure of the internet. They discuss how we should think about its physical and software components, and why getting the framing right is key to regulating it. They also address what sort of interventions should be made by Governments, including if and how the military should be involved in cyber defence.

Scott Wilkie is a former investment banker, founder of technology companies and advisor to governments on their cyber-secure capabilities. This has included cyber security governance and risk models, digital transformation, analytics, artificial intelligence, trust in a digital world and cloud computing.  He is well known in Australia and across the Five Eyes for leading policy and strategy development for digital sovereignty and security of critical supply chains and infrastructure.

Further reading:

• Australian Cyber Security Centre, The Cyber Security Principles
• The 5 knows of cyber security
• Scott Shackelford, 'The FBI is breaking into corporate computers to remove malicious code – smart cyber defense or government overreach?' The Conversation (26 April 2021)
• Sun Tzu, The Art of War
• Shane Harris, @War: The Rise of  Cyber Warfare (2014, Hachette)