This election was shaped by two men with very different characters. One of them was defined by certainty and the other by his insecurities. Erik Jensen on how leadership interacts with uncertainty, and what it means for the country.

Guest: Editor-in-chief of Schwartz Media and author of Quarterly Essay 74: The Prosperity Gospel Erik Jensen.

Background reading:

Quarterly Essay: The Prosperity Gospel

The Saturday Paper

The Monthly

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