Kate joins the show and has some great chat to share, including her hatred of Baked beans. Some novel ideas take shape too, including the idea of banning supermarkets from selling fresh produce, and the removal fo DEFRA from the lives of farmers and landowners. 

This episode is so full of laughs and thoughtfulness in equal measure.

Kate chose Nigel Slater's "Kitchen Diaries" as her book, a "silver circle" gin and tonic as her drink and she nominated James Rebanks 

Thanks as ever to Purple Planett for the free music.