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- 189 - Research in the Age of AI
What happens when AI can search, summarise, and think with us?
About Heather CaveneyHeather is an experienced educator and librarian with more than 20 years of experience across public, private, boarding, and international schools. She has worked with students from Pre-Kindergarten through Grade 12 in the United States, Mongolia, and Türkiye.She is currently Head Librarian at the American Collegiate Institute in İzmir, Türkiye, and also works as a School Library Consultant. Her work focuses on research and information literacy, digital literacy, academic integrity, and helping students and teachers think critically about online information and AI-generated content.Heather holds a Master’s degree in Library Science from Texas Woman’s University and is passionate about helping students become thoughtful, independent, and confident researchers.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-j-caveney-aa2b6257/About Wouter LalemanWouter Laleman has been working as an international school librarian for about 30 years in libraries and schools in Belgium, Oman, Japan, Malaysia and Madagascar.He is currently Head Librarian and Data Protection Officer at the International School of Brussels, where he also leads work around digital media and libraries.He is a founding member of collaborative reading and literature initiatives including the European Iris Award and Bookbowl and Sakura Medal in Japan. His work brings together reading, research, digital literacy, privacy, and the ever changing role of libraries in schools.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wouter-laleman-11277851/Resourceshttps://www.linkedin.com/company/caveney-consulting/https://www.aci.k12.tr/en/https://www.isb.be/https://sites.google.com/isb.be/irisaward/bookbowlThe CARE Approach by Leo S. LoNotebookLM for Schools, webinar by Eric Curts, EdTech Specialist of Control Alt AchieveResearch:
Your Brain on ChatGPT, research by Nataliya Kosmyna et al.“Experimental evidence of the effects of large language models versus web search on depth of learning” by Melumad and Yo Hun.“A new direction for students in an AI world: Prosper, prepare, protect” Report by Burns et al, of the Brookings Institute.John Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial1 hr 6 min - 188 - Rediscovering Audrey Amiss
Two educators, their aunt Audrey, and the story of her life and art they are helping others discover.
About Steve WeatherelSteve has worked in several international schools in the last forty years and in many different roles. These days he's living in the Netherlands trying to make it as a writer, with projects such as Intense Colours, the blog about his aunt, the artist Audrey Amiss.Instagram: @audrey_amissAbout Kate WeatherellKate is a Mathematics teacher in London. After a long career in food as a chef, caterer, author and food stylist, she made the move into teaching.Resourcesintensecolours.substack.comaudreyamiss.comhttps://wellcomecollection.org/stories/audrey-and-her-familyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7IIyKh4lpYTypist Artist Pirate King FilmJohn Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial59 min - 187 - More Than One Route
How international schools can offer more than one post-16 pathway and help students choose the route that suits them best. It also explores what this means in practice for families, teachers, school leaders, and students planning for university and beyond.
About Sarah O'ReganSarah O'Regan is the Principal CEO of GEMS Wellington Academy Silicon Oasis, she has been part of the school’s journey for almost 15 years, including as a founding member of the community. She also serves as a GEMS Wellington Brand Ambassador, supporting collaboration, leadership development, and the sharing of best practice across the Wellington family of schools.Her leadership focuses on helping every child flourish through academic excellence, strong pastoral care, innovation, and personalised learning. She is passionate about creating flexible pathways and inclusive school communities that prepare young people with the confidence, character, resilience, and skills they need for the future.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-o-regan-a054461b7/About James RostronJames is Whole School Vice Principal for Curriculum and Assessment at GEMS Wellington International School in Dubai. With more than a decade of senior leadership experience, he has helped shape the school’s curriculum, assessment, academic pathways, and wider academic strategy.He is particularly interested in personalised learning and creating flexible pathways that give students greater choice, including both International Baccalaureate and A Level options. James is passionate about curriculum innovation, effective school leadership, and designing learning experiences that prepare young people to thrive in a complex and connected world.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-rostron-79622959/About Nicola HuggettNicola Huggett is the Executive Principal and CEO. An experienced educator and school leader, she studied at Oxford University before beginning her career in advertising and later moving into teaching. She went on to serve as Principal of two highly regarded schools in the UK before joining GEMS Education to lead Wellington International School in Dubai.She is passionate about ambitious, well-rounded education that helps students grow in confidence, character, knowledge, and skills. Her leadership is closely aligned with the school’s values of integrity, empathy, and fortitude, with a strong focus on preparing young people for both academic success and life beyond school.
https://www.wellingtoninternationalschool.com/About-Us/Our-Team/Executive-Team/Nicola-HuggettAbout Robert CurryRobert is Vice Principal at GEMS Wellington Academy Silicon Oasis, where he has been part of the school community for more than 13 years. During that time, he has supported the school’s growth and played a key role in developing its IBDP, IBCP, and A Level pathways, as well as leading timetabling, examinations, and data management.Originally a Physics teacher and a graduate of Durham University, Robert has 15 years of experience in education and 11 years in leadership. He is particularly interested in future-ready education, evidence-informed school improvement, and creating high-performing schools where academic excellence, innovation, and student wellbeing go hand in hand.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-curry-31b058119/Resourceshttps://www.wellingtoninternationalschool.com/https://www.gemswellingtonacademy-dso.com/en/https://www.gemseducation.com/en/John Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial57 min - 186 - The Next Turn: Work, AI, and Human Expectations
This episode explores Jeff Utecht’s new book, The Next Turn, and his thinking on AI, leadership, and the changing nature of work. We discuss what schools can learn from this shift, especially around judgment, trust, human responsibility, and what still needs to remain deeply human.
About Jeff UtechtJeff Utecht is an educator, consultant, author, and speaker who has spent many years helping schools and leaders think differently about learning and technology. He has worked with more than 75,000 educators around the world and consulted with over 200 school districts.Jeff’s work focuses on how schools and organisations respond to change, especially with the rise of generative AI. His book Human Still Required is written for school leaders and explores how AI is changing education, while reminding us that trust, judgment, culture, and human connection still matter deeply.He is also the author of The Next Turn, which looks at how AI and different generations in the workplace are reshaping leadership and the future of work. Through his writing, speaking, and consulting, Jeff helps leaders think carefully about what should remain human in a fast-changing world.Website: https://www.jeffutecht.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffutecht/Resources- https://nextturnleadership.site/
- https://humanstillrequired.com/media/press-kit.html
- https://pod.shiftingschools.com/
- https://www.shiftingschools.com/
John Mikton on Social Media
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial57 min - 185 - Out of Autopilot
A conversation with Samuel Holston and Kirun Goy of BrainTools Lab and Podcast on simple brain tools for focus, learning, and better decisions at school and at work.
About Kirun GoyKirun works at the intersection of leadership, cognitive science, and intentional living. He helps people think more clearly, lead more effectively, and move out of autopilot.Over the past 14 years, Kirun has delivered more than 1,600 workshops and keynotes for leaders around the world. His work focuses on practical leadership skills such as staying clear under pressure, building emotional intelligence, and learning how to learn.He is the host of the BrainTools Podcast, which has reached more than 62,000 people in 100 countries. He is also a Senior Leadership Facilitator for Harvard Business Impact, where he supports leaders in large organisations to navigate change with more clarity and intention. He’s also the author of “The Imperfect Learner”.Whether speaking to a large audience or leading a smaller workshop, Kirun’s style is practical, relatable, and focused on giving people tools they can use straight away.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirungoy/Website: https://www.kirungoy.com/About Samuel HolstonSamuel Holston works at the intersection of education, technology, and learning.Sam has worked at the intersection of technology, AI, cognitive science, education and learning for the last decade. He’s run SEL camps reaching thousands of students, delivered cognitive-science based workshops to schools and built learning products used by over 100,000 students and teachers.He’s co-host of the BrainTools podcast, where he shares practical neuroscience and helps people understand how their brain works. He is also the co-founder of BrainTools Labs, who created science-backed resources, products and tools to help schools teach the human skill skills AI can’t replace.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-holston/?skipRedirect=trueAbout BrainTools LabBrainTools Lab is a science-backed educational tools company founded by Kirun Goy and Samuel Holston. Its flagship product, ATL Lab, is designed for IB (International Baccalaureate) schools and helps students develop the Approaches to Learning (ATL) skills - thinking, communication, research, self-management, and social skills - that underpin deep, transferable learning.What We DoATL Skills Lab — A curriculum-aligned programme for MYP schools that teaches, tracks, and develops ATL skills using neuroscience-informed tools and workshops. Designed to give MYP coordinators and teachers a structured, evidence-based way to embed skill development across subjects.BrainTools at School Podcast — Hosted by Samuel, the podcast explores how cognitive science, AI, and practical pedagogy intersect, with a focus on what this means for teachers, coordinators, and school leaders. Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Key Numbers- 80,000+ students reached
- 5,000+ teachers trained
- 300+ schools served
- 1,600+ workshops and keynotes delivered (Kirun)
- 62,000+ podcast listeners in 100 countries
Links- BrainTools Lab: https://www.braintoolslab.com
- Kirun Goy: https://www.kirungoy.com
- BrainTools at School Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/braintools-at-schools/id1815817672
- Samuel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-holston/
- Kirun on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirungoy/
- BrainTools Lab on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/braintools-lab/posts/?feedView=all
John Mikton on Social Media
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial57 min - 184 - Joining the Dots in Student Wellbeing
A conversation with Brooke Fezler, M.A. in Counseling, Co-Founder and Co-Director of ISCA, on how schools can move from separate wellbeing efforts to a clear, connected system of support.
About Brooke FezlerBrooke Fezler is the Co-Founder and Co-Director of International School Counselor Association (ISCA) and has spent more than twenty years supporting student well-being in international schools across the world. She has worked at international schools in Indonesia, Argentina, France, Brazil, and Spain. Her work at ISCA focuses on building preventative, schoolwide counseling programs, with a strong emphasis on SEL, life skills, and support systems for students, teachers, and families. Brooke is also the co-developer and co-researcher of the International Model for School Counseling Programs, published in 2011 and 2022.Based in Barcelona, Brooke continues to support international school counselors and educators through training, consulting, teaching, writing, and speaking.Brooke Fezler on Social Mediahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-fezler-235058a1/https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-school-counselor-associationResourcesWebsite: https://iscainfo.com/ISCA Model: https://iscainfo.com/the-model/ISCA Student Standards: https://iscainfo.com/student-standards/Learning Progression: https://iscainfo.com/learning-progression/SEL Toolkit: https://iscainfo.com/sel-toolkit/ISCA Blogs: https://iscainfo.com/blogs/https://iscainfo.com/professional-ethical-standards/John Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsedu.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial1 hr 2 min - 183 - When AI Starts Thinking for Us
A conversation with Timothy Cook (Director, The Cognitive Privacy Project & Connected Classroom | Psychology Today Columnist, The Algorithmic Mind) on exploiting how AI may be changing the way children think, learn, and grow.
About Timothy CookTimothy Cook, M.Ed., is an international educator, AI researcher, and Director of the Cognitive Privacy Project. With more than a decade of teaching experience across four countries, he studies how AI and algorithmic systems are reshaping children’s thinking, learning, identity, and development. Timothy is also the founder of Connected Classroom and writes The Algorithmic Mind for Psychology Today, where he explores the impact of AI on cognition, creativity, student agency, and well-being. His current work focuses on cognitive privacy: the idea that children’s attention, judgment, reasoning, motivation, and developing sense of self need protection as AI becomes increasingly embedded in schools and society. In his recent writing, he argues that many young people are already sensing a contradiction: they are told AI may weaken learning, while also being told they must use it to prepare for the future.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-cook-092713138/Resourcesconnectedclassroom.orgcognitiveprivacyproject.orghttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mindJohn Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsevents.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial1 hr 1 min - 182 - Beyond English Fluency: Seeing the whole Multilingual Learned
A conversation with Aylin Erengul Gregg and Ana Arana on supporting multilingual learners without mistaking English fluency for ability.
About Aylin Erengul GreggAylin Erengul Gregg is an English Language Acquisition specialist with a passion for supporting multilingual learners in accessing meaningful and equitable education. Having taught in diverse international school settings, she brings a global perspective to language acquisition, identity, and classroom practice. Her work with students from a wide range of linguistic and cultural backgrounds is grounded in the belief that language learning should affirm rather than assimilate. She is the creator of the LEAVES Approach, which focuses on language, exposure, acquisition, validation, engagement, and scaffolding as a way to support multilingual learners and help educators become more language-aware in their practice. Currently based in Kuala Lumpur, Aylin continues to work with multilingual learners, supporting them to feel seen, capable, and confident as they develop English.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aylin-erengul-gregg-ma-tesol-w-app-ling-10b56915/About Ana AranaAna Arana is an advocate for multilingual learners who challenges the assumption that language proficiency equals intelligence. With a Master's from the University of Exeter and over a decade of experience in IB schools, she builds classrooms where students' strengths are recognised, their voices are heard, and their academic potential isn't mistaken for their English fluency. Her approach is collaborative. She works alongside colleagues to ensure language learning is part of everyday learning, not a separate activity. This advocacy extends to every student conversation, team meeting, and classroom decision. Her driving motivation is simple: to help multilingual learners build confidence, fully access the curriculum, and thrive academically and personally.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msanaarana/Resourceshttps://www.leaveseal.com/John Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsevents.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial59 min - 181 - The Future of the IB Diploma
From digital assessment to systems transformation, what's changing, and what it matters.
About Dr. Jenny GillettDr. Jenny Gillett is a Senior Expert in the International Baccalaureate’s Education Innovation team, based in The Hague. She has worked with the IB for more than 15 years across curriculum and assessment, including leading reviews of the Diploma Programme philosophy, history, global politics and Theory of Knowledge. Her work has included curriculum development, assessment design, and supporting wider developments across IB programmes.Before joining the IB, Jennifer taught at Oakham School and Bedford School in the UK. She brings a strong mix of classroom experience, curriculum leadership, and assessment expertise, making her well placed to discuss how assessment, curriculum, and international education are evolving.Dr. Jenny Gillett on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-gillett-87a19b22/Resourceshttps://ibo.org/https://www.ibo.org/programmes/collaborative-review-of-the-dp-and-cp/systems-transformation/https://www.ibo.org/programmes/collaborative-review-of-the-dp-and-cp/https://www.mulgrave.com/senior-schoolgrades-10-12/ib-systems-transformationJohn Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsevents.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial54 min - 180 - Beyond the label
Supporting gifted students with care and clarity.
About Dr. Michael CascianelliDr Michael Cascianelli is Head of Secondary Years, Diploma Programme at the International Baccalaureate, and a University of Cambridge-trained researcher, school leader, and author specialising in Gifted Education. His doctoral research pioneered the first implementation of a Schoolwide Enrichment Model in Italy, translating Renzulli's scholarship into a bilingual international school context and establishing a replicable framework for gifted provision across cultures.He is co-author of Understanding Giftedness: A Guide for Parents and Educators (Routledge), a practitioner-focused resource equipping educators and families with evidence-based strategies for identifying and nurturing high-potential learners. With leadership experience spanning schools in Europe, Asia, and the United States, Dr Cascianelli is a passionate advocate for systemic, research-informed approaches to talent development in international education.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcascianelli/About Marijin BergsmaMarijn Bergsma is the founder of BrightPath, an enrichment and gifted education consultancy working with international schools to close the readiness gap, the distance between a child's potential and their capacity to act on it. Having attended international schools across three continents, he knows firsthand what the readiness gap looks like and what it costs. As a father of three gifted kids, he sees it up close every day.Before BrightPath, Marijn spent fifteen years founding and leading companies across Africa, Asia, and Europe, raising millions in funding and building teams from the ground up. Today he brings that same hands-on, whole-person approach to gifted education, working directly with students as an enrichment class educator in the Netherlands, while supporting school leaders and teachers to close the readiness gap across their schools.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marijn-bergsma/, https://www.linkedin.com/services/page/0a873633a74693a3b5/ResourcesNational Center for Research on Gifted Educationhttps://ies.ed.gov/use-work/awards/national-center-research-gifted-education-0?ID=4406Understanding Giftedness: A guide for parents and educators - 1st Edithttps://www.routledge.com/Understanding-Giftedness-A-guide-for-parents-and-educators/Zanetti-Gualdi-Cascianelli/p/book/9781138321175Exploring Giftedness: Implementing and Re-designing a Schoolwide Enrichment Modelhttps://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/bcafe684-4f0a-4bda-a94c-debe7b9d9e3fAdapting to Giftednesshttps://consiliumeducation.com/itm/2026/04/29/adapting-to-giftedness/What’s Going on With Gifted Education?https://today.uconn.edu/2026/01/whats-going-on-with-gifted-education/BrightPath Educationhttp://www.brightpath.nlNational Center for Research on Gifted Educationhttps://ncrge.uconn.edu/John Mikton on Social MediaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmiktonWeb: beyonddigital.orgDan Taylor on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appseventsTwitter: https://twitter.com/appdktWeb: www.appsevents.comListen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTubeDo a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.comWould you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial58 min
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