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Decision making during high stress , life and death situation is difficult for most well trained first responders and the military personnel.  With that being said, many Americans have found themselves listening to soundbites and watching incomplete clips of tragic events that forever change men and women’s life.  At core of each watched or listen to encounter, is a burning question of why did this event occur as it did. Do I have all the information? Was it the police officers fault? Is it the suspects fault? Is it the systems fault? The outcry for answers is often deafening. What so many armchair critics and keyboard warriors fail to understand is that there are decades of research when it comes to Human Performance and Human Dynamics. Empirically, peer reviewed research is constantly informing training commissions across the nation on the best way to approach potentially deadly situations, but we have to listen to the data and implement the findings. 

At the center of this research is the Force Science Institute (FSI) FSI is led by executive director Dr. William “Bill” Lewinski.  Dr. Bill Lewinski has spent the better part of his life asking critical questions about how the human body works under and incredible amount of stress.  Which is faster, Action or Reaction? What is the human experience with time distortion? How do we create experts?  What is at the route of human error and how do we mitigate against the bodies tendency toward self preservation verses the best decision when a decision must be made.  How does experiential bias impact a man or woman when faced with a decision that needs to be made in under 1 second?  During this interview with Dr. Bill, he sheds some light on a few of these questions during our time together. This is a man that has sacrificed so much in the name of science and has provided vetted solutions to help prevent injustices toward the men and women who have sworn to serve and protect the constitution of the United States and the Laws of other nations around the globe.

Dr. Lewinski has testified in grand juries, coroner’s inquests, arbitration hearings, and both criminal and civil cases throughout North America, in the United Kingdom and Australia. He has trained in Goju Karate (traditional Japanese Karate) since 1967. He is a regional director and a national examiner with Goju Kai Karate Do, U.S.A. 

 A mission of Force Science® Institute, Ltd. (FSI) is to gather experts from a variety of academic and research disciplines and a wide range of educational institutions in North America and the United Kingdom, to assist in the study of officer and subject behavior primarily in lethal force encounters.  Areas of study include action/reaction parameters, perception - including the relationship of skill level, attention and visual focus to information processing, judgment and effectiveness of action, and also attention and memory. The university researchers FSI has paired with, for research or instruction, have published over 1,000 research articles and 12 textbooks. 

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Asking yourself the question, why do I hunt is a question nearly every hunter has asked themself whether they are doubting their skill or if they are taking a much deep look at their ethos. Ethics seems to be a huge question every hunting needs to wrestle with as they mature in the pursuit of game. 

My guest today is Robbie Kroger of Blood Origins. Robbie is helping hunters ask deeper and meaningful questions about the ethics of hunting through blood origins. Whether the motivations for hunting are rooted in food provision, the challenge, or even giving back through conservations efforts to save the vast number of habitats every hunting should be examining what it means to be a hunter. Robbie is on a mission to help educate anyone willing to listen to hear a perspective about the values of the hundreds of thousands of hunters worldwide.

Robbie and I discuss the truth about hunting, how to tell your children what it means to be a hunter, Participation vs. Observation, weapon lethality, hunting and social media, the responsibility is taking an animal's life, and the genesis of Blood Origins.

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Have you ever made a mistake and excused the behavior by saying, “Well, I’m only human!” There is so much truth in that statement the only problem is we often do not take the time to unpack what it means to be human. My guest today is Mike Musengo. Mike is a Force Science Institute instructor and prior law enforcement SWAT Team leader. He has walked through numerous critical incidents and has had to face how human factors play into how we respond to adversity and how we heal from difficult circumstances. We cover the topics of human performance, biomechanics, learning, acquisition of new skills, attention, inattentional blindness, human errors, and human sensory systems. 

A recently retired Police Training Commander and Director of a mid-sized Regional Police Academy in upstate NY, Sergeant Mike Musengo has studied and implemented non-traditional and empirically supported methods of training which optimizes long term learning, retention and skill transfer into the LEO training experience.  These methods coupled with his experience as an instructor in human performance factors has helped him develop training curriculum for not only the officer on the street but the trainers who are responsible for them.   

Mike’s innovative application of scientifically supported methods of training have gained the attention, praise and application from top trainers in the profession.  His focus is on how we can help each other become more competent instructors, coaches and leaders within our industry.  “Our people, our vocation demand nothing short of highly skilled Professional Instructors.”   

Mike has also successfully completed the Certification in Force Analysis course and is a graduate of the Advanced Force Science Specialist Course.  Mike is also known for his work with the Force Science Institute in many capacities including Instructor in these highly esteemed courses across the US.  Mike is also a nationally recognized IADLEST Certified Instructor and considered an expert in several domains within the Law Enforcement profession. 

Resources Mentioned on the Show:

Dr. Robert and Elizabeth Bjork on memory, skill retention and transfer (mounds of research on the web)

Dr. Todd Conklin (5 Principles of Human Performance, Better Questions), James Reason (Human Error), Sydney Dekker (The field guide to human error investigations) and Erik Hollnagel (The ETTO Principle) on Human Error

Dr. Robert Nideffer on Attention Control Theory (Quadrant) 

Dr. Timothy Lee: Motor Learning and Performance

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson: 12 Rules for Life, Beyond Order, Maps of Meaning

Steven Pressfield: The War of Art, Do The Work and Turning Pro and The Warrior Ethos (Required early recruit Academy Reading)

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Today’s guest, Eric Rittmeyer is a former US Marine and an expert in the fields of mental toughness and emotional intelligence. He’s been a professional speaker for the past decade, and is a regular guest on all of the major television outlets including Fox, CNN, NBC and ABC. Eric’s also the author of the book “The Emotional Marine – 68 Mental Toughness and Emotional Intelligence Secrets To Make Anyone Instantly Like You”. He speaks to audiences all over the country, teaching executives and sales professionals how to overcome the limits brought on by fear and emotions, and replace them with clear, concise critical thinking that gets results.  

He also uses his platform to spread the word about the pro-police movement sweeping across the nation called “We Back Blue” where he serves as the Director of Communications. Their mission is to let law enforcement know we love, honor, and support them unconditionally.  

 Eric Rittmeyer, Mental Toughness and Emotional Intelligence Expert

Web – www.MentalToughnessSpeaker.com 

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Impact, influence, and legacy are all words that weigh heavily on fathers. Using every moment on this earth to lead, teach, and inspire children while they are under a father or mothers care is a mission that all parents embark on.  We never know where life will take us or the moment we will no longer be on this earth to care for our family.  Preparing NOW is always the right thing to do.

Blake is on a mission to help 1 million dads write a least one well written meaningful, lasting Legacy Letter to their children. Black has a wonderful Wife and loves being a father to his three children, all under 5.  As he leads his family, he draws from many mentors, but none more important that his late father Larry Brewer.

Blake share a story of resilience as tragedy struck his family while on vacation many years ago. Since that time, Blake has found meaning and purpose because of a power and inspiring action his father took in an effort to lead and provide for his family.  Enjoy this conversation with Blake and be sure to check out the Legacy Letter Challenge.

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56:05 Origin of the Legacy Letter Challenge

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On the Eastern Shore of Maryland, September, is a much anticipated month as outdoor enthusiast hit the woods in chase of many game species, but for anglers it is a magical time of the year.  The Eastern Shore of Maryland and Virginia is home to some of the finest fisheries on the East Coast.  Whether you are chasing Speckled Trout, Drum, Cobia or the famous Rock Fish (Striped Bass) you always will be in for an adventure when a line is in the water.

On September 24-26 the Tangier Classic fishing tournament will welcome anglers from all over the Mid-Atlantic region for some of the finest fishing that fishing tournaments can offer. Based out of Crisfield, Maryland  tournament goers will fish the Chesapeake Bay and partake in a plethora of family fun actives on the shores of Crisfield, Maryland.

Brad Taylor and David Hooker join Steve Hallman for a conversation about the origins of the tournament and the "Why" behind it.  A portion of this years proceeds will go to the Drollette family to help with medical expensiveness for their youngest son Owen. Owen Drollette, was born on October 23rd, 2020. The family knew long before his birth that he would be a heart warrior. At twenty weeks pregnant, Owen's parents learned that Owen has several congenital heart defects, Heterotaxy, which means some of his organs are in the wrong place or shifted, and Polysplenia, which means he has multiple spleens.  Owen is nearly one year old and fighting hard everyday. 

To learn more about the Drollette family and the Tangier Classic check out the links below and enjoy this conversation.

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Honest story telling is at the core of what the Copeland Creative Team believes. Owner, Caleb Copeland has assembled an All-Star Team of field producers, and together they are pushing the envelope with their skills and creativity in the outdoors space.  They are producing some of the largest and most impactful shows in the outdoor industry like the Crush with Lee and Tiffany Lakosky, Hunt Masters with Gregg Ritz, and Nockon TV with John Dudley to name a few .  Caleb Copeland, Ryer Porter and Clay Courington make up the primary team at Copeland Creative and in addition to the powerful stories they tell with a camera, they somehow make the time to give back to others in the production space. These guys are never short on stories and laughs, but have a way of simplifying technical information and delivering it in a concise and helpful way for their audience

After an intense three days being taught by the crew of the Redneck Tech Podcast, these guys graciously sat down with Steve Hallman to discuss production and the reason it is important to tell truthful and powerful stories as men and women seek adventure in the outdoor.  Be on the look out for more production classes that are hosted by the Redneck Tech Podcast Crew.

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As children across the nation are preparing to return to school there are many important questions on the topic of school safety beyond the health concerns that parents need to be asking their children, their children's teachers and administrators.  There are many questions about mental health and the toll the pandemic has had on children.  It is critical that we all prepare now and know the risks that our schools face, not so  we will live in a constant state of fear, but that we might be informed to have a greater level of confidence that the appropriate mitigation strategies are implemented to save the most lives should an act of evil come to our communities. "Knowledge diminishes fear," and this conversation with (Ret.) Chief Tony Pustizzi will move us one step closer to equipping ourselves with the information to engage in tough conversations with the local school systems. 

Chief Pustizzi was one of the first law enforcement officers on scene at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida on February 14, 2018.  He quickly had to assume command of an incredibly chaotic crime scene during the Active Shooter situation at that school.  In a matter of 2 hours there were nearly 700 officers on scene  and the management of every resource was vital to save the most  lives as possible.  That terrible day, 17 innocent people were killed and another 17 were injured. Chief Pustizzi shares about the many lessons learned that day and the days that would follow in the wake of this unfathomable act of evil.

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Tony Pustizzi began his career with the Coral Springs Police Department in 1988.  Over his 30-year tenure, he supervised every unit within the agency with a strong emphasis on investigations, including homicide and special victims.  Additionally, he served on the SWAT team for 15 years, the last eight of which as team commander. Tony rose through the ranks to ultimately become chief of police in 2012.  He also served as the city’s interim city manager and retired in March 2018 as the chief of police/deputy city manager.  In January 2019, Tony came out of retirement to serve as the special counsel to the new sheriff of Broward County upon his appointment by the governor of the state of Florida. 

 He graduated from the University of Florida with a bachelor’s degree in criminology and law and received a master’s degree in public administration from Florida Atlantic University. He is a graduate of the FBI National Academy, the Southern Police Institute Command Officer’s 

Course, FBI’s LEEDA course, Center for Creative Leadership Program and Florida Atlantic University’s Executive Leadership Program.

 Tony has served as state president for the Florida chapter of the FBI National Academy Associates, the chair for the National Benchmark Cities Chief’s Association, an executive board member of the South Florida High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area program, and an executive board member of the Broward County Chiefs of Police Association.

 As owner of Four Star Strategies, Inc., Tony conducts training throughout the country on school and workplace violence preparedness. He is also a keynote speaker at the FBI National Academy in Quantico, Virginia, and is a presenter with the FBINAA’s School Shooting Prevention Leadership Forum and the School Safety Advocacy Council.

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On todays show Steve Hallman is joined by the founder of Veterans Club Inc, Jeremy Harrell. Jeremy shares his story of overcoming adversity in childhood and as an adult. After being deployed to Iraq in the U. S. Army Jermey had to confront an internal and external battle with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).  Jeremy found the courage to confront difficult circumstances head on and has overcome the effects of trauma in his own life and has since started the non-profit organization Veterans Club in the state of Kentucky to help other veterans learn learn about themselves through a variety of therapy methods. 

Jeremy Harrell is a U.S. Army Combat Veteran of Iraqi Freedom. He served honorably for nine years and was a Non-Commissioned Officer before getting out of the Army in 2008. After leaving the Army, Jeremy went to school at Mid-Continent University studying Business Management. Jeremy started a career in Operation Management in the Manufacturing and the Supply Chain Logistics Industry. As a man with an Entrepreneurial heart, he wanted to do more to support the Veteran community.

Three years ago, Jeremy founded a nonprofit called Veteran’s Club Inc in Kentucky. Presently, Veteran’s Club Inc is a premier organization in the United States. Veteran’s Club INC has assisted thousands of Veterans in a multitude of ways such as his nationally recognized Equine Therapy Program, Career Transition for Vets needing employment, Family Outreach Program, and is currently developing the Camp Restoration Community to house and heal homeless veterans. Veteran’s Club Inc also works heavily in veteran’s outreach in the community including raising money for Veteran causes and providing meals, job opportunities, and teaching leadership classes to homeless Veterans. Jeremy also goes into jails and substance abuse inpatient facilities to teach life skills classes in hopes that those who are in there have the tools needed upon release. Veteran’s Club INC was the 2019 Recipient of the Patriots Award for Veterans Service Organization. This is a national award given from the American Freedom Fund in Washington D.C. every year.

Jeremy is the Co-Chair for Veterans Community Alliance of Louisville (VCAL). Jeremy also serves on the Week of Valor planning committee for Louisville Metro Government as well as the VA Mental Health Summit planning committee.

Outside of his organization, Jeremy travels with an organization called Mighty Oaks Warrior Program to help struggling veterans in weeklong retreats in CA, OH, TX, and VA. Jeremy was selected as a Community Influencer for the Mayor of Louisville’s Synergy Project bridging the gap between citizens and police. Most recently, Jeremy was selected to serve on the Governor’s Challenge Team to help develop policy to combat SMVF suicides in the state of Kentucky. Jeremy is also a very active leader in his church Southeast Christian in Louisville. Independent from his organization, Jeremy is often called upon by local and national news affiliates such as CNN and Fox News when it comes to Veteran and Community Leadership related topics not limited to PTSD, Homelessness, Suicide, Policy, Foreign Policy, Social Justice, and more.

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Today retired Oak Creek, Wisconsin Police Officer Lt. Brian Murphy shares his story with Steve Hallman. Lt Murphy shares about his time in the Marine Corp and his assignment to the United Nations and then his transition to Law Enforcement in 1990.  Lt. Murphy talks about how his commitment to excellence and preparedness served him as he was the first responding officer to the Sikh Temple massacre in August 2012 which left 6 dead and another 3 wounded. Lt. Murphy was shot 15 times during the gunfight with the suspect. Lt. Murphy has been recognized on both a state and national level for his actions.

Among many Awards and Commendations:
2013- Oak Creek Police Purple Heart
2013- Oak Creek Police Medal of Valor
2013- Wisconsin Association of SWAT Personnel- SWAT officer of the year
2014- Congressional Badge of Bravery
2015- Presidential Public Safety Medal of Valor

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