Parenting and recovery at the same time is no joke.

In this episode, Dr. Andre Johnson talks through what that actually looks like day to day—rebuilding trust, figuring it out as you go, and showing up even when it’s hard.

Recovery doesn’t happen in a vacuum, and neither does parenting. This one’s about how the two intersect in real life.

If you’re in it, or you work with families who are, definitely give this a listen.