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Content note: this episode discusses suicidal ideation directly. If you're not in a place to hear that today, that's alright - come back to it when you are.
This is the hardest one Huang has recorded. Several years ago, in the middle of losing three years of work to a betrayal at a venture he co-founded, he found himself on a window ledge, thinking it would be easier if he simply wasn't around anymore. Something held him back. He still doesn't fully know what.
Released for World Suicide Prevention Day, this episode speaks directly to men - and to the women who love them - about why suicide rates run higher among men in almost every country on earth, regardless of culture, language, or income. It traces the line from an impossible standard of masculine unshakeability, through the emotional vocabulary men are never given, to a single, deliberate reframe: the same willingness to sacrifice that men are taught to point outward, at a cause, can be pointed inward instead - at the quiet war against yourself.
This episode carries direct signposting to crisis support for anyone it reaches personally.
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