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A U.S.-Iran deal may reopen the Strait of Hormuz. It does not necessarily remove the threat — it may simply shift the burden back onto Israel.

In this episode of EylON the Record, Eylon Levy speaks with Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, about the future of the Iranian threat, the risks of a suboptimal U.S.-Iran deal, and whether the Islamic Republic can be contained without regime change. They discuss the Strait of Hormuz, Iran’s nuclear program, the limits of diplomacy, Israel’s shadow war, and the broader strategic question facing the West: whether democratic allies are prepared to weaken their enemies before those enemies recover.

In this episode, we discuss:

•  Why reopening the Strait of Hormuz without confronting Iran’s core threats could create a dangerous precedent 
•  Whether Iran’s nuclear program has been seriously set back — or merely driven deeper underground 
•  How a U.S.-Iran deal could leave Israel with more responsibility and less diplomatic cover 
•  Why Dubowitz argues Israel must focus on weakening the Islamic Republic before it rebuilds 

This conversation moves beyond the immediate headlines over diplomacy and ceasefires. The deeper question is whether the West is prepared to confront the Islamic Republic as a strategic enemy, or whether it will settle for temporary arrangements that leave Israel facing the same threat again — only stronger, richer, and harder to stop.

🎯 Key moment:
 “Israel has two and a half years under President Trump to bring down the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

🎙 Filmed at M10 Studios, Tel Aviv 

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