Well, you know, my journey. 25 years in TV news and and I reached the top of the little hill I was climbing called local TV news reporter. I wasn't going to be promoted to anchor and and to be honest with you, I wasn't fulfilled anymore. I had to redefine success for myself. So I quit. It was the scariest thing I've ever done, and I'm so glad that I did it. Somebody who knows a little something about that, Laura Gassner Otting. She is an author, speaker and coach, and now, my friend.