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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass to... more
FAQs about The Jon & Marc Podcast:How many episodes does The Jon & Marc Podcast have?The podcast currently has 84 episodes available.
June 23, 2026Why AI Companies Prioritize Growth Over Safety: AI Psychosis, Suicide Cases, and Corporate NegligenceRachel Lanier and Sarah Lanier, The Lanier Law Firm, join Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux to break down how AI is being weaponized against vulnerable people, and how lawyers are fighting back.Key Takeaways:ChatGPT and similar AI platforms have provided dangerous advice to vulnerable users, including suicidal youth, prioritizing engagement over safety, a critical issue Rachel and Sarah are litigating.AI psychosis is an emerging phenomenon where users develop detachment from reality through prolonged AI interactions, creating a new category of mental health cases for trial lawyers.Only 2% of professionals truly understand how to effectively leverage AI; the remaining 98% use it superficially without understanding its mechanics, creating a significant competitive advantage for those who master it.The 10-80-10 framework: human oversight on the front end, AI handling 80% of the work, human verification on the back end, is the responsible approach to using AI in litigation.AI hallucinations are most dangerous in legal research and medical record reading; courts have already rejected multiple cases built on fabricated case law created by AI.Voice AI agents are becoming indistinguishable from humans, creating ethical nightmares when users believe they're speaking to real people (doctors, lawyers, therapists) receiving critical advice.Different AI platforms pull from different data sources and training methods; understanding the mechanics of Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity is essential to choosing the right tool for the right task.Trial lawyers now face a new defense strategy: blaming AI hallucinations, even when AI systems provided explicit, demonstrable evidence against corporate defendants.Meta pulled lawsuit advertisements after losing the California social media trial, signaling that tech companies view legal accountability as a threat to be eliminated, not addressed.The arms race between AI companies (OpenAI, Google, Anthropic) to release new models faster is directly causing safety compromises and unreleased QA testing that endangers users....more47minPlay
June 18, 2026The $60M NEC Setback, Talc Dismissal Tactics, and AFFF Docket CleanupKey TakeawaysNEC $60M Verdict Overturned: The Illinois appellate court reversed a massive 2024 plaintiffs' verdict due to improper jury instructions regarding failure to warn claims and the improper handling of prejudicial executive compensation evidence, forcing a retrial.J&J Seeks Total Talc Dismissal: Capitalizing on a recent California defense verdict and the subsequent withdrawal of two key plaintiffs' experts, Johnson & Johnson is aggressively pushing to dismiss the entire MDL with prejudice, a move the plaintiffs' bar plans to fiercely oppose using alternative experts.AFFF Docket Cleanup Underway: Defendants in the AFFF individual personal injury litigation are moving to dismiss roughly 10,000 cases over missing fact sheets and unverified diagnoses. This mass inventory purging is viewed as a highly positive signal that defendants are calculating viable case counts ahead of potential settlement negotiations.Lone Pine Constraints: Due to a Lone Pine order currently in place for the AFFF personal injury docket, the litigation is becoming increasingly technical and challenging, meaning explosive new case-filing volume is highly unlikely.Global Pressures on Social Media Tech: The UK has announced a sweeping ban on social media for children under 16 effective in 2027. Combined with similar bans in Australia and Spain, plus upcoming mainstream whistle-blower media, global regulatory and legal pressures are forcing major tech platforms onto the defensive....more11minPlay
June 16, 2026Tax Strategy for Trial Lawyers: Act 60, Penalty Refunds, and Clean BooksKey TakeawaysA Supreme Court ruling has opened up $170 billion in AIPA tariff refunds for importers and downstream businesses, creating a major niche co-counsel opportunity for law firms.Acting quickly before suppliers receive their tariff refunds makes reimbursement conversations much smoother and less adversarial for downstream businesses.Moving to Puerto Rico under Act 60 allows attorneys to eliminate short-term and long-term capital gains and lower business tax rates to 4% via export services companies.Law firms can recover past IRS penalties and interest through the Kwong case FEMA extension, but the deadline closes on July 10, 2026.The IRS relies on a secretive "DIF score" algorithm to select returns for audits, frequently targeting disproportionate marketing and entertainment expenses.Less than half of law firms have adequate financial records when entering private equity negotiations, which directly lowers their EBITDA valuation multiples.Successfully scaling or selling a law firm requires a comprehensive advisory team, including M&A counsel, tax counsel, an ethics specialist, and a highly skilled CPA....more39minPlay
June 11, 2026New MDLs Formed, J&J’s Talc Defense Verdict, and Major Paraquat UpdatesKey TakeawaysTwo New MDLs Established: The JPML has officially formed two new mass tort dockets: the Dupixent litigation in the District of New Jersey and the Spinal Cord Stimulator litigation against Boston Scientific in the Central District of California.Dupixent Injury Focus: The Dupixent MDL targets a rare T-cell subtype of non-Hodgkin lymphoma , drawing from a massive potential pool of roughly 800,000 users and projected to eventually encompass a few thousand cases.Spinal Cord Stimulator Scope Limited: Plaintiffs requested an industry-wide spinal cord stimulator MDL, but the JPML limited the initial consolidation to Boston Scientific due to distinct discovery tracks and trade secret concerns. An Abbott Laboratories MDL may follow later this year or early next year.J&J Clinches Talc Victory: Johnson & Johnson secured a surprising 10-2 defense verdict in the second California state court talc bellwether trial. The outcome came down to a battle of the experts, where jurors expressed skepticism over plaintiff experts who failed to warn their own patients of the risks.Paraquat Settlement Disruption: In the Paraquat MDL, the judge ordered a mandatory 10% case-specific workup and depositions for three law firms whose clients overwhelmingly opted out of a recent settlement proposal. Concurrently, Philadelphia state court cases are facing renewed jurisdiction challenges ahead of late-summer trials....more11minPlay
June 09, 2026Inside the Underground Network of Child Abuse (And Why Nobody's Stopping It)Key TakeawaysLee Floyd spent over a decade defending major corporations like Johnson & Johnson and Bayer before transitioning to plaintiff's work in 2020.A detailed conversation about systemic abuse at Cumberland Hospital prompted her to leave her corporate defense partnership within a single week to represent injured children.Floyd secured a $360 million verdict in her very first trial on the plaintiff side, establishing the largest verdict in Virginia history.Institutional abuse cases involve severe emotional challenges, with clients frequently experiencing intense trauma responses during written discovery and depositions.Legal teams handling high-trauma cases require active internal support structures, including mandatory therapy schedules and flexible time-off policies, to protect staff members from vicarious trauma.Effective intake protocols for sensitive litigation allow both the potential client and the staff member to pause or reschedule discussions if the content becomes too overwhelming....more42minPlay
June 04, 2026Mass Tort Power Rankings: The "Rocket Docket" Surges & A Game-Changing $27M Precedent Key TakeawaysThe #1 Ranked Mass Tort remains the undisputed heavyweight champion of the board after securing a staggering $27 million settlement on a school district bellwether case that was originally selected entirely by the defense.Depo Provera has officially broken into the top three as a historic "rocket docket" under Judge Rogers, on track to advance from MDL inception to a December trial date in under two years.Hair Relaxer securely holds the #2 spot on the rankings with a steady influx of filings pushing the docket toward 12,000 cases as Daubert decisions loom this fall.Tech litigation bottlenecks are prompting defense firms to pivot, with corporate targets in the Roblox litigation aggressively trying to force 160 MDL cases into individual state-by-state minor arbitration.Weight Loss Drug dockets require a dual-screening approach from intake teams, as litigation expands concurrently across separate gastrointestinal injury and vision loss MDLs....more21minPlay
June 02, 2026The Private Equity Shift: Turning Your Law Firm From a Founder-Led Practice to a Scalable AssetKey TakeawaysPersonal injury firms attract private capital because their high-volume, mass-advertising models offer predictable cash flow, unlike mass torts dockets that have undefined timelines and cash flow volatility.Management Services Organizations (MSOs) allow outside investors to buy into the legal space by owning the service-providing business rather than the regulated law firm equity itself.Alternative Business Structures (ABS) in jurisdictions like Arizona and Puerto Rico permit non-lawyers to own direct equity in law firms, providing a different pathway for institutional funding.A law firm's valuation depends heavily on separating the business operations from the founder. Firms built entirely around a single attorney's face and reputation carry high transition risk and receive lower valuations.Institutional capital and artificial intelligence are driving a massive spending war in case acquisition. Independent trial attorneys may eventually need to join large capitalized firms to access major cases.Post-acquisition failures often stem from regulatory overreach or a breakdown in trust between the investing partners and the practicing attorneys....more44minPlay
May 26, 2026Inside the $70B Opioid Litigation and the New Battle Against Pharmacy Benefit ManagersKey TakeawaysPaul Farrell Jr. led the legal strategy that recovered approximately $70 billion in national opioid settlements by filing lawsuits against every level of the pharmaceutical supply chain.The settlement funds are legally structured within all 50 states to guarantee they are spent strictly on addiction treatment and abatement rather than disappearing into general government budgets.The litigation began by utilizing an overlooked West Virginia code section that grants county commissioners explicit legal standing to sue corporations for creating a public nuisance.While the cases against manufacturers, distributors, and pharmacies are nearly finished, the legal focus has shifted to holding Pharmacy Benefit Managers accountable for controlling drug formularies and using vertical integration to drive the epidemic.The legal team proved corporate misconduct by demonstrating "diversion," where massive quantities of pills were sent to small towns with no objective medical justification.Farrell extended his antitrust litigation strategy to take on Google, representing independent newspaper publishers whose advertising revenue was destroyed by digital advertising monopolies and walled garden ecosystems.Artificial intelligence poses a new challenge for content creators by scraping publisher text and displaying answers directly, which threatens to eliminate the financial incentive to create original news....more53minPlay
May 21, 2026The Battle for Accountability: Zuckerberg’s Testimonial Pressure, Rocket Dockets, and Emerging Mass TortsKey TakeawaysSocial Media Litigation Shifts to School Districts: The first bellwether school district trial is set for next month against Meta in a rural Kentucky district, following massive pre-trial settlements by YouTube, Snapchat, and TikTok.Depo-Provera Moving at Record Speed: With expert depositions complete and Daubert motions fully underway, the litigation is on a strict "rocket docket" pacing toward a crucial June 24, 2026 hearing and a December trial.GLP-1 Vision Loss Risk Intensifies: A new study published in JAMA Network Open demonstrates that GLP-1 weight loss drug users face a nearly three times higher risk of developing NAION (vision loss).Projected Growth for Weight Loss Dockets: While the vision loss litigation currently holds only a few hundred cases, experts project it could scale 10x up to 3,000 to 5,000 total cases as scientific data continues to mount.May JPML Brings High-Stakes New Torts: The May 28, 2026 JPML hearing will evaluate consolidating Dupixent (deemed an 80-90% slam dunk) and Spinal Cord Stimulators against Abbott and Boston Scientific (facing complex multi-defendant hurdles)....more12minPlay
May 19, 2026Why Founder-Led Marketing Beats Private Equity for Law FirmsThe script is flipped in this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, as RR Digital's VP of Client Services, Jen Cox, hosts this episode and interviews Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux. In this episode, you learn:True business partnerships require complete alignment on long-term vision and an unwavering commitment to look out for each other. Jon Robinson's early restaurant ventures collapsed after his partners refused to scale beyond three locations, proving that misaligned growth goals can destroy business operations.Growing a marketing services company successfully can happen without a traditional sales team, quotas, or a massive acquisition budget. RR Digital relies entirely on delivering exceptional client results and generating organic word-of-mouth referrals to expand its client portfolio.Rejecting private equity investment prevents the erosion of service quality and helps protect long-term client trust. Private equity models focus primarily on extracting short-term financial value, which frequently results in cutting domestic creative teams in favor of cheap foreign labor.Strong agency relationships require a willingness to over-allocate resources to client accounts when performance drops, even if it reduces immediate profit margins. True alignment means operating as an integrated extension of a law firm's internal team rather than acting as a standard vendor.The legal marketing sector is moving away from narrow point solutions like basic search engine optimization toward comprehensive digital execution, which incorporates public relations, billboard design, and television strategy.Artificial intelligence should be viewed as an internal tool to improve human efficiency rather than a mechanism to eliminate headcount. While individual daily tasks will alter every few months as software improves, top-tier organizations adapt by shifting great people into new high-impact responsibilities....more33minPlay
FAQs about The Jon & Marc Podcast:How many episodes does The Jon & Marc Podcast have?The podcast currently has 84 episodes available.