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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass to... more
FAQs about The Jon & Marc Podcast:How many episodes does The Jon & Marc Podcast have?The podcast currently has 91 episodes available.
July 16, 2026Tylenol Reborn, Talc Setbacks, and Covidien's First Bellwether TrialKey TakeawaysTylenol MDL Reinstated: The Second Circuit overturned the district court's exclusion of plaintiff experts, ruling that judges should not resolve active scientific debates at the gatekeeping stage. This brings the Tylenol autism/ADHD MDL back to life, with predictions that it could become the largest mass tort in history.Redefining the Daubert Standard: By holding that reliable expert methodologies belong in front of a jury even if opinions conflict, the Second Circuit has shifted the risk-evaluation calculus across all MDLs—and signaled a potential reversal in the upcoming Zantac appeal.A Temporary Win for J&J in Talc: A Special Master’s report recommended excluding asbestos testing testimony from plaintiff expert Dr. Longo. While J&J is claiming victory, this is only a recommendation and far from a death knell for the 70,000 pending talc cases.Covidien Hernia Mesh Trial Begins: The first bellwether trial involving Covidien’s Symbatex mesh has officially begun in the MDL. Covidien remains the last major standing manufacturer, holding about 25% of the market share.Roundup Settlement Moves Forward: Despite favorable Supreme Court preemption decisions, Bayer is actively pushing forward with its $7.25 billion Missouri class action settlement, with a final approval hearing set for August 19th....more11minPlay
July 14, 2026Three Days from Bankruptcy to Back-to-Back Nine-Figure VerdictsKey TakeawaysLeading Through Extreme Crisis: Taking the helm as CEO right as courts closed required absolute transparency and raw video updates rather than polished corporate messaging to maintain team alignment.The Operational Math of Client Care: Setting staff caseloads by tracking the actual minutes required per individual task prevents burnout and guarantees a high-touch client experience.Maximizing Elite Trial Talent: Moving daily administrative burdens away from top earners allows elite trial lawyers to focus completely on high-value cases that generate massive revenue.Hospitality as a Competitive Advantage: Hiring staff with service backgrounds and keeping real people on the phones beats automated legal systems every time.Leveraging Initial Touchpoints: Complying with strict regulatory rules for in-person retainer reviews builds deep client trust right at the start of a case.Systematizing Personal Touch: Implementing organized internal programs for handwritten cards and small client gifts drives massive word-of-mouth referrals....more29minPlay
July 09, 2026Navigating Defense Verdicts: What’s Next for NEC and Bard PowerPort?Key TakeawaysNEC Trial Setbacks: A recent defense verdict in St. Louis adds to the challenges of NEC litigation, though plaintiff attorneys are looking toward the upcoming first MDL bellwether trial later this year to shift momentum.Bard PowerPort Shifts Strategy: The second Bard PowerPort bellwether trial focuses on infection injuries rather than fracture or migration, serving as a critical plaintiff’s pick that impacts hundreds of infection-only cases in the MDL.Social Media Litigation Isolates Meta: Google and TikTok have settled out of the upcoming California state court trial,, and predictions suggest Snapchat will follow, leaving Meta and Snapchat to stand alone against mounting pressure.Compounding Pressure on Tech Giants: Meta faces significant headwinds from public awareness campaigns and recent regulatory actions, such as the Supreme Court allowing Texas's age verification laws to move forward.Roundup Class Action Delayed: The final approval hearing for the Roundup class action in Missouri state court was pushed back to August for procedural briefing....more12minPlay
July 07, 2026Human Empathy or Indistinguishable Automation? The Battle for Legal IntakeKey TakeawaysThe Long-Term Threat to Personal Injury Margins: Autonomous vehicles and advanced commercial automation represent an inevitable shift that will eventually reduce standard traffic accidents, drastically shrinking the conventional personal injury market and forcing firms to run as lean corporate entities to survive.The Boundaries of Fully Automated Intake: While automated systems process data flawlessly without calling in sick or having bad days, they currently lack the genuine emotional intelligence needed to navigate highly sensitive, catastrophic injury calls without breaking client trust.Real-Time Guidance as the Immediate Solution: Rather than completely replacing human intake staff with standalone bots, the near-term future of client onboarding lies in software screens that feed live scripts and real-time prompts to human agents during an active call.Monetizing Misdirected Traffic via Tiered Systems: High-growth firms protect their marketing acquisition costs by building automated, multi-layered referral networks to instantly monetize out-of-practice leads instead of allowing them to slip away.Advanced Automation for Quality Auditing: Implementing artificial intelligence tools to review, transcribe, and score incoming calls gives firms a direct look at intake staff performance, allowing them to spot training flaws and prevent lost cases.Moving Away from the Cottage Industry Model: The era of running a sloppy law firm sustained solely by massive legal margins is closing, meaning modern founders must separate their courtroom talents from business operations and hire dedicated executives....more45minPlay
July 02, 2026Mass Tort Strategy: Rebounding From SCOTUS & The Multi-Prong Attack on UberKey TakeawaysSCOTUS Roundup Ruling: The Supreme Court issued a 7-2 ruling finding that federal pesticide law preempts state-law failure-to-warn claims. However, alternative causes of action like negligence and design defect remain active.Missouri Class Action Delay: The final approval hearing for the Missouri Roundup class action, originally scheduled for July 9th, has been pushed back. This delay allows objectors to brief issues and enables the parties to address the federal court remand.Internal Corporate Pressure at Uber: A pension fund has launched a lawsuit targeting Uber’s board of directors and CEO for cutting compliance corners. This internal pressure arrives right before thousands of sexual assault cases head toward a September bellwether trial.Bair Hugger Legacy Victory: In the decade-long Bair Hugger litigation, a Texas state court granted the plaintiffs a new trial in the Kelso case. The court determined that the previous jury instructions were confusing and incorrectly stated the law.Public-Private Framework in Social Media MDL: The Social Media Addiction MDL judge denied Meta's motion to dismiss and found regulatory notice non-compliance on summary judgment. To handle these cases, 29 State Attorneys General are partner-shipping with elite private plaintiffs' firms like the Lanier Law Firm, utilizing a multi-pronged framework pioneered in opioid and AFFF litigations....more9minPlay
June 30, 2026Lady Legal Law: How One Woman Built a Scaling Firm While Mentoring the Next GenerationKey TakeawaysBuilding a woman-owned, woman-led plaintiff firm requires rethinking traditional law firm hierarchies and creating mentorship pipelines for both male and female talent.A founder's personal brand can become a limiting factor. Rebranding to Lady Legal Law allowed the firm to expand geographically while maintaining its female-led identity and values.Women in legal leadership are reshaping how firms approach talent development, investing in long-term team building rather than reactive hiring cycles.Structured internship programs create opportunities to mentor emerging talent, regardless of gender, from day one and embed firm culture and values early.Sourcing backend operations overseas while protecting domestic intake operations allows women leaders to focus on high-value litigation and client relationships.Matching market compensation and treating operational staff with the same respect as trial attorneys creates loyalty and reduces costly turnover cycles.Protecting referral networks through consistent communication and follow-up is especially critical for woman-owned firms building credibility in traditional legal markets....more45minPlay
June 26, 2026Settlement Pressure and Trial Momentum in Social Media CasesMarc Rioux and Joe Fantini dive into a busy week in mass torts, covering major developments across Depo-Provera, Social Media Addiction, Roundup, and Uber litigation.Key Takeaways:Depo-Provera Settlement in Works: Under two years to settlement, potentially 5,000+ cases with hundreds of millions in damages. Judge Rogers vacated trials and Daubert hearings, signaling deal imminent.Social Media Addiction Going to Trial: Following the $6 million verdict against Meta and a YouTube settlement, the second bellwether trial is expected to settle before jury trial in late July 2026.Roundup Remand and Supreme Court Ruling Imminent: The case is moving back to Missouri state court with a final approval hearing scheduled for July 2026. A Supreme Court decision on EPA preemption could come by early July, with major ramifications for all pharma MDLs.Uber's Delay Tactics Rejected by Court: For the third time in the same case, Uber tried to push back trial. The judge denied the request, keeping the September 2026 trial date intact.Trial Pressure Driving Settlements: Across multiple cases (Depo-Provera, Social Media, Roundup), imminent trials and bellwether pressures are accelerating settlement negotiations....more7minPlay
June 23, 2026Why AI Companies Prioritize Growth Over Safety: AI Psychosis, Suicide Cases, and Corporate NegligenceRachel Lanier and Sarah Lanier, The Lanier Law Firm, join Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux to break down how AI is being weaponized against vulnerable people, and how lawyers are fighting back.Key Takeaways:ChatGPT and similar AI platforms have provided dangerous advice to vulnerable users, including suicidal youth, prioritizing engagement over safety, a critical issue Rachel and Sarah are litigating.AI psychosis is an emerging phenomenon where users develop detachment from reality through prolonged AI interactions, creating a new category of mental health cases for trial lawyers.Only 2% of professionals truly understand how to effectively leverage AI; the remaining 98% use it superficially without understanding its mechanics, creating a significant competitive advantage for those who master it.The 10-80-10 framework: human oversight on the front end, AI handling 80% of the work, human verification on the back end, is the responsible approach to using AI in litigation.AI hallucinations are most dangerous in legal research and medical record reading; courts have already rejected multiple cases built on fabricated case law created by AI.Voice AI agents are becoming indistinguishable from humans, creating ethical nightmares when users believe they're speaking to real people (doctors, lawyers, therapists) receiving critical advice.Different AI platforms pull from different data sources and training methods; understanding the mechanics of Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity is essential to choosing the right tool for the right task.Trial lawyers now face a new defense strategy: blaming AI hallucinations, even when AI systems provided explicit, demonstrable evidence against corporate defendants.Meta pulled lawsuit advertisements after losing the California social media trial, signaling that tech companies view legal accountability as a threat to be eliminated, not addressed.The arms race between AI companies (OpenAI, Google, Anthropic) to release new models faster is directly causing safety compromises and unreleased QA testing that endangers users....more47minPlay
June 18, 2026The $60M NEC Setback, Talc Dismissal Tactics, and AFFF Docket CleanupKey TakeawaysNEC $60M Verdict Overturned: The Illinois appellate court reversed a massive 2024 plaintiffs' verdict due to improper jury instructions regarding failure to warn claims and the improper handling of prejudicial executive compensation evidence, forcing a retrial.J&J Seeks Total Talc Dismissal: Capitalizing on a recent California defense verdict and the subsequent withdrawal of two key plaintiffs' experts, Johnson & Johnson is aggressively pushing to dismiss the entire MDL with prejudice, a move the plaintiffs' bar plans to fiercely oppose using alternative experts.AFFF Docket Cleanup Underway: Defendants in the AFFF individual personal injury litigation are moving to dismiss roughly 10,000 cases over missing fact sheets and unverified diagnoses. This mass inventory purging is viewed as a highly positive signal that defendants are calculating viable case counts ahead of potential settlement negotiations.Lone Pine Constraints: Due to a Lone Pine order currently in place for the AFFF personal injury docket, the litigation is becoming increasingly technical and challenging, meaning explosive new case-filing volume is highly unlikely.Global Pressures on Social Media Tech: The UK has announced a sweeping ban on social media for children under 16 effective in 2027. Combined with similar bans in Australia and Spain, plus upcoming mainstream whistle-blower media, global regulatory and legal pressures are forcing major tech platforms onto the defensive....more11minPlay
June 16, 2026Tax Strategy for Trial Lawyers: Act 60, Penalty Refunds, and Clean BooksKey TakeawaysA Supreme Court ruling has opened up $170 billion in AIPA tariff refunds for importers and downstream businesses, creating a major niche co-counsel opportunity for law firms.Acting quickly before suppliers receive their tariff refunds makes reimbursement conversations much smoother and less adversarial for downstream businesses.Moving to Puerto Rico under Act 60 allows attorneys to eliminate short-term and long-term capital gains and lower business tax rates to 4% via export services companies.Law firms can recover past IRS penalties and interest through the Kwong case FEMA extension, but the deadline closes on July 10, 2026.The IRS relies on a secretive "DIF score" algorithm to select returns for audits, frequently targeting disproportionate marketing and entertainment expenses.Less than half of law firms have adequate financial records when entering private equity negotiations, which directly lowers their EBITDA valuation multiples.Successfully scaling or selling a law firm requires a comprehensive advisory team, including M&A counsel, tax counsel, an ethics specialist, and a highly skilled CPA....more39minPlay
FAQs about The Jon & Marc Podcast:How many episodes does The Jon & Marc Podcast have?The podcast currently has 91 episodes available.