In this episode of the podcast, Ray Colin and Wes discuss Ray's enlightening interview experience, underscoring the importance of soft skills for career progression. They debunk the notion of innate talent, echoing Jordan Peterson's insights on the learnability of these skills through practice and self-improvement. Colin reinforces the value of rewarding the journey of skill acquisition over fixating on results, offering practical strategies and mental models for listeners to enhance their soft skills. This insightful discussion inspires listeners to embark on their own journey of personal and professional growth.