Rob Stokes has shown leadership of a kind which many internationally will look to around two key initiatives. One is the fact that he deliberately added ‘and public spaces’ to his title as Planning Minister because of his own passion to ensure that the communities he serves have access to sufficient high quality public space – with streets also seen as shared spaces for walkers not just as conduits for cars - and because he knows that having such access was already becoming a key part of the social license to grow our cities before Covid: Covid has added to the importance of public space because of its obvious role in promoting public health and liveability. Minister Stokes other initiative may be even more important: his department and indeed the government has placed a focus on ‘place’ as a key organising principle for all public agencies of in a way that might be unique on the international stage. Join Rob and Tim for an important conversation on life post Covid.

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