The Lab

The Lab

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The Lab episodes

  • Ep 6 - Crypto, AI and the future of learning ft. OnChain Education

    What happens when crypto moves beyond the hype and becomes something people actually use?

    In Episode 6 of The Lab, Justus sits down with Kodi Sinclair and Oliver Jenks from OnChain Education, a Christchurch startup building hands-on blockchain learning tools. They talk about selling to universities, helping students learn in a safe testnet environment, and how a three-person team uses AI to build and grow.

    The conversation explores university in the age of AI, whether crypto has had its internet moment, x402 and micropayments for AI agents, security, stablecoins and everyday finance. Kodi and Oliver also discuss the risks of speculation, why financial education matters, and how they want to balance a growing business with better learning outcomes.

    OnChain Education: https://onchaineducation.org/

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Meet Kodi and Oliver
    00:47 What is OnChain Education?
    04:53 Changing attitudes toward crypto
    08:52 Building a startup with AI
    13:09 University in the age of AI
    18:40 Has crypto had its internet moment?
    22:26 x402, micropayments and AI agents
    25:41 AI and blockchain security
    29:41 Stablecoins and everyday finance
    39:39 Risk and responsible education
    45:57 The future of OnChain Education
    50:04 Balancing purpose and profit
    52:18 Closing thoughts

    53 min
  • Ep 5 - Making the tough decisions and managing risk ft Daniel van der Walt

    How should we make decisions when AI is becoming part of every workflow — and who is accountable when it gets them wrong?


    In Episode 5 of The Lab, Justus, Max and Scott are joined by Dr Daniel van der Walt, Senior Lecturer in Civil and Environmental Engineering at the University of Canterbury. Daniel works at the intersection of enterprise risk management, infrastructure, engineering education and emerging technology.


    They unpack why human decisions are often emotional before they are rational, how uncertainty and bias should be handled, and when AI is useful — or dangerous — as a decision-making partner. The conversation moves through accountability in AI-assisted engineering, the future of universities and research, mentorship and organisational knowledge, decision registers, hiring for genuine competence, the enduring value of human effort, and whether AI will eliminate work or simply let us tackle harder problems.


    An expansive conversation about making better decisions in a world where the tools are changing faster than the institutions around them.

    1 hr 29 min
  • Ep 4 - Replacing the accountants ft. Luke Kilworth - Lodg

    Luke, founder of Lodge, joins Max, Scott, and Justus to talk about leaving school at 15, building a company that wants to reinvent tax and accounting, and competing in a world where AI has made software easier than ever to create.

    They explore customer-led product development, viral marketing, software defensibility, hiring great people, and the lessons founders can take from competitive sport. The conversation eventually turns to rewriting the Linux desktop, open-source GPU drivers, and the slightly terrifying idea of riding in a vibe-coded self-driving car.

    1 hr 38 min
  • Ep 3 - The unconscious parts of intelligence ft. Joe Cole - Tacit Intelligence

    Joe Cole, Co-Founder and CEO of Tacit Intelligence, joins The Lab to discuss how the hidden judgment of human experts can be captured and used to train more capable, reliable AI systems.

    Drawing on Joe’s experience building technology for hundreds of professional sports teams and Olympic programmes, the conversation explores the surprising parallels between elite coaching, human learning and reinforcement learning.

    Joe explains why conventional datasets often miss the reasoning behind expert decisions, how Tacit evaluates AI for high-stakes environments, and why the future may belong to specialised models rather than one model that attempts to solve everything.

    The group also discusses sleep and performance, AI safety, digital twins, whether models could “dream,” the limitations of AI memory, and how businesses can encode their judgment into agents, skills and evaluation systems.

    1 hr 41 min
  • Ep 2 - Building massive products in months not years

    In episode 2 of The Lab, we talk through what it actually looks like to build software with AI agents in the loop.

    We cover the first MVP, why big codebases can make agents more useful, Scott’s prompting framework, enterprise-ready AI workflows, background agents, Cursor, Codex, merge conflicts, and the reality of letting agents run for hours at a time.

    A practical conversation about where AI coding tools are already working, where they still break down, and how we’re using them inside real product work.

    52 min
  • Ep 1 - In the beginning there was AI Transformation

    In this first episode of The Lab, we talk about building real products with AI, what actually matters when hiring, the strange ways people trust confident AI systems, and why taste, persistence, and shipping still matter.

    1 hr 20 min

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The Lab is a podcast about AI, software, startups, and the messy reality of building with new technology. Hosted by the Lumin team, each episode explores what is changing, what is overhyped, and what…