What happens when an Australian grows up in the Netherlands and falls in love with rugby league?

In this episode, I sit down with The Leaguie to explore rugby league and life from a perspective that sits well outside the traditional Australian bubble. From starting out as just another fan with strong opinions to building a respected voice in the game and eventually achieving his goal of appearing on Bloke in a Bar (which he genuinely thought was a prank at first), his journey is a fascinating one.

But this conversation goes far beyond rugby league.We discuss whether rugby league's tier system is holding the international game back, why Queensland's passion for State of Origin feels different to New South Wales, and whether Origin's success may actually come at a cost to the NRL competition.

We also dive into culture, identity and belonging, comparing life in a largely monocultural society with living in a multicultural world. Along the way, we talk about the realities of putting yourself out there online, handling criticism, building something meaningful, and staying authentic in the process.

Throw in an unexpected fire alarm interruption, plenty of laughs, thoughtful debate, and a few vulnerable moments, and you've got a conversation that goes well beyond sport.Whether you're a rugby league fan or simply interested in different perspectives on life, this is one worth listening to.