This conversation was sparked by a question from one of our listeners and takes us to some messy, deep and complicated places.

1. Marissa & Tracy explore the question, "What is the lesson you keep learning?" and find the common theme in their shared experience of loss.

2. Marissa shares the story of the moment of realization that she may never find the answers she had spent her life seeking.

3. Tracy explains how her relationship with her Dad continues to grow in new & different ways since his passing.

4. Tracy reveals how she is learning to find meaning in the hard stuff & Marissa explores how her journey through grief continues to evolve after 32 years.

If you have lost someone you love, or struggled to find meaning in life's most difficult moments, this is an episode you will certainly relate to.