Joe Stewart is a fixture in NC politics who is parts lobbyist, politico, historian, and stand-up-comic.  The 35-year political veteran, who wears suspenders and bowties sans coat, talks about his life, his many jobs in politics and policy, and how lobbying is a lot like bowling.  

Skye and Brian also discuss the latest debacle from Congressman Madison Cawthorn, a Leandro update, and a debrief on Skye's camping trip to McDowell County last weekend.  

The Do Politics Better podcast is sponsored by New Frame, the NC Travel Industry Association, and the NC Beer & Wine Wholesalers Association.