In this episode of Made for More, SL is sitting down with John Michael Howell to talk about navigating fame, influence, and success while remaining rooted in who God created you to be.

John Michael shares what it looks like to go from a worship setting into a secular space without compromising your identity, how to stay humble when your gifts begin opening doors, and what it means to entrust your talent and influence fully to God.

We talk about the temptation to find your identity in success, the pressure that comes with being seen, and the importance of remembering that your gift is ultimately a gift from God and for God. How we use those gifts to make His name known is what truly matters. 

Because being in a secular space doesn’t mean you have to become of it. And being given a platform doesn’t mean you have to lose yourself on it.

This conversation is a reminder that God can use your gifts anywhere—but your identity has to remain rooted in Him.

You were never made to chase fame. You were made to faithfully steward what God has placed in your hands.

SL is back for another solo episode - this time, she is sharing her updated healing testimony! This one is pretty crazy… if you’re feeling a lack of hope, this episode is for you! 

LO Worship and Dasher the Band singer Laela Skinner Dasher comes on Made for More to talk about pursuing music in both the Christian and secular spaces. The girls talk about convictions, obedience, being a light in dark spaces, and the importance of knowing God’s voice. Join the girls as they dive into shaving both been called to both spaces and what they have learned in the process. 

Noah Herrin pastor of Way Church joins SL on the pod to talk about the vitality of being plugged in to your church community, discipleship and even church hurt. They unpack so many things throughout the episode that leave you feeling inspired, seen, refreshed and on fire! The church isn’t perfect - and that’s the point - we are broken vessels aiming to become more like Him and with that comes growth, accountability, grace and change. 

God designed the church with beautiful order, intentionality and purpose - if you have questions or have felt let down, this episode is for you! 

This episode we are joined by not one, but 5 amazing guests!! The Goodsource team joins forces and bring 6 different Christian “hot takes!” Za, Garth, Syd, Grace, Danielle, and Bailey are under a timer of 8 minutes each dropping one of their favorite Christian topics that doesn’t always get talked about. All of these things are very important conversations for us as believers to have and unpack!

This is such a fun episode bringing the reminder of having community to sharpen and deepen your perspectives and have a joyful time along the way! 

Made for More Fam, he's back! 


After finishing as the runner-up on American Idol, Jordan McCullough returns to the Made for More podcast—but this time, he’s living out the very answered prayer he talked about in his first appearance. This conversation is a full-circle moment filled with honesty, encouragement, and powerful reminders of God’s faithfulness.


Together, Sara Laine and Jordan unpack what it looks like to pursue God wholeheartedly while chasing the dreams He’s placed on your heart. They discuss how to remain a faithful vessel, steward the gift of an answered prayer, and navigate the weight and responsibility that often come with seeing God’s promises unfold.


If you’ve ever prayed for something big, wondered what comes after God says “yes,” or needed encouragement to keep trusting Him in the process, this episode is for you. 

"Dear Future Husband" podcast host Christian Bevere comes on the pod to talk about if there is one person God has ordained for us to marry as believers and what it look likes to step into what is right after a long season of waiting. The girls talk about the power of prayer, waiting well and following the Lord’s pace. 

Sara Laine sits down for her second solo episode to discuss suffering and trials. She shares the scriptures and experiences God has used in her own life to show His character and what true perseverance in our walk with Christ should aim to look like; how He is the ultimate healer and in Him alone He is able to take what the enemy meant for evil and turn it for good. 

Lacy brings the realness, rawness, depth, joy, humor and wisdom on this weeks episode! She shares a big part of her testimony as to how Christ transformed her life and then how He took it a step further and helped her out of living one foot in the world and one out. The girls talk freedom, hope and standing firm in who He has called you to be; get ready to laugh, cry and all the in betweens! 

Pastor and podcaster Jonny Ardavanis, best known for his emphasis on biblical clarity, discipleship, and helping people understand how to read Scripture well, comes on the pod to unpack questions like “How do I know it was from God?” and why we’re often quick to label thoughts and feelings as divine direction. The pair also discuss the tendency to rely on “Christianese” without fully understanding what we’re saying. The episode points listeners back to the gospel, challenging cultural assumptions and calling us to a deeper, more grounded faith rooted in scripture rather than emotion or assumption.