It’s clear that Simon is a criminal mastermind. But that level of skill requires practice, and a certain amount of pathology. In this episode, Felicity and Bernadette try to understand the mind – and methods – of the Swindler. We hear from an old friend - patient zero if you like - who knew Simon before he was The Prince of Diamonds.

The Making of a Swindler is a companion to the documentary, The Tinder Swindler, now on Netflix.

The Making of A Swindler is brought to you by RAW and NETFLIX.

Presenters: Felicity Morris, Bernadette Higgins
Producers: Felicity Morris, Bernadette Higgins
Series Producer: Georgina Savage
Executive Producer: Deborah Dudgeon
Researcher: Lucy Barnes
Sound Design: Emma Barnaby
Original Score: Jessica Jones
Junior Production Assistants: Rowan Lee-Potter, Shemsije Zeqiri
Production Executive: Nageena Ahmed
Raw’s Head of Podcasts is Sarah Harris, And the Head of US Production is Kate Leonard-Morgan