This week’s episode features a wide-ranging conversation with former ACT Senator and Morrison Government Minister Zed Seselja. We discuss major international developments, including the Trump administration’s actions in Venezuela and Iran, and what the apparent erosion of the rules-based international order means for Australia’s foreign and Pacific policy. The conversation explores whether shifting US behaviour risks green-lighting a more assertive Australian posture, and when—if ever—Western democracies have a responsibility to intervene abroad to defend human rights.
Zed reflects on his family history, including his parents’ migration from Yugoslavia, and how this shaped his political philosophy—especially the importance of family, community. We examine the future of the Liberal Party, with discussion of the Teal movement and One Nation as existential challenges, the scourge of factionalism, and whether the party can still sustain the broad Menzies coalition of socially progressive and conservative voters. The need for stronger grassroots organisation, authenticity, and clearer articulation of policy is emphasised.
The episode also offers insight into the life and responsibilities of a senator, Zed’s experience as a minister in the Morrison government—including the Solomon Islands-China deal—Australia’s preparedness for a defensive conflict, and reflections on major moments from his career, including a memorable Craig Kelly story and his experience undergoing major heart surgery.
