After a very affecting interview with the people behind That Dragon, Cancer game, Chris and Kelly decided to rush this episode of The Married Gamers podcast. Join us for two great interviews. The first one Kelly, Chris, and our good friend, podcast co-host of Sarcastic Gamer and creator of Extra Life, Doc Adams interview Ryan and Amy Green and Josh Larson. Ryan and Amy's son Joel is a four year old who is fighting terminal cancer. With Joel's help, together they have been creating this game that helps other find hope in this incredible sadness. Our second interview is with Ian Kinsey, the CEO of SemiFormal Studios. They are presenting their game, Ensemble Online at E3 this year, and they are letting their fellow Indie develops crash the party with their contest, Indies Crash E3.