Andrew is on a break this week, and Brett talks to his brother Jonathan Kelly of Olde Tyme Tattoo fame.

They talk about running a tattoo shop and why culture and strategy matter. We hear about Jon's journey of opening his own shop.

In particular:

Bonus

"People and their millions of reasons" - Jon Kelly

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This week, Andrew continues on his rant about the Profit. He really wants to know how the back end of that business works:

The dichotomy of

Andrew tells the same exact story again.

We dig into each of these aspects of Brett's new business and figure out what the potential problems are. Also, Brett repeatedly gets ahead of what Andrew wants to talk about and Andrew becomes audibly annoyed.

Bonus:

Andrew tells the story of where is his Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew books came from. Brett lets him know he is missing the point.

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