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Alex and Arun dive into another conversation that could easily have been 6 hours long. Here we explore just a few aspects of the MEGA church culture, celebrity pastors, insecurity in ministry and other related topics. We try to highlight and define what the biblical purpose of a Christ centered church should look like and how one can deviate rapidly from the "great commission". 

We look forward to your feedback and pray that this episode invokes a biblical re-think of sorts and encourages an honest evaluation. 

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