The Neurodivergent Creative Podcast

The Mess is The Raw Material | #160


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You’re gonna mess up. You’re gonna fumble. You’re gonna make choices that feel good at the time and then sit with the aftermath, wondering if you’re cut out for any of this. That doesn’t mean you suck. It means you’re human!


And with being human comes discomfort, growth, re-evaluation, hard pivots, quiet grief, and (if you’re lucky) a little clarity on the other side. Especially if you’re a neurodivergent creative trying to build a business, express yourself, or simply exist in a system that was never designed for your kind of magic.


💬 “When you make mistakes, you can choose to learn from them—or you can sit in the corner and wallow. One of those is productive. The other will make you feel like absolute shit.” - Caitlin Liz Fisher


In this episode, Caitlin gets real about:

  • Quitting jobs when your values get violated

  • Learning to say “no thanks” to unsolicited feedback

  • Navigating the chaos of being a beginner in life, art, and entrepreneurship

  • Why trusting yourself is the secret sauce

  • Letting your routines, offers, and creative work evolve with you


Your mess isn’t a character flaw—it’s proof you’re in motion. It’s the raw material of becoming, and yes, that's art.


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UPCOMING EVENT: NOVEL PARKOUR!!!!

📅 May 16–18 | 💻 It’s free | 🎟 It’s for you

Caitlin’s free, 3-day writing workshop for neurodivergent creatives is happening May 16–18, 2025. It’s designed to help you wrangle your story idea into an outline that’s flexible, doable, and tailored to brains that don’t do things the “normal” way.

👉 Sign up here: https://www.askfishfisher.com/novel-parkour-live-2025


Support the Podcast: Membership Drive on Patreon!

So the pod is back to four episodes a month!! If you want to support the neurodivergent creative chaos and listen to more unhinged, informed, deeply compassionate rants like this one? 


Join Caitlin’s Patreon for bonus mess, early content, and merch! We’re so close to hitting the next Patreon milestone.💋 https://www.patreon.com/caitlinlizfisher


Join our little neurodivergent creative club!

🌞 Want to support these heartfelt conversations about mental health, creativity, and neurodivergence? Hop over to Patreon to keep the podcast going and join us in our free creative community, The Neurodivergent Creative Pod: https://www.askfishfisher.com/pod


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PS - Caitlin wants to hear from you! Drop Caitlin a DM on Instagram @caitlinlizfisher or leave a comment on the episode (especially if you're tuning in on YouTube). 

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