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How do you cope when the unimaginable happens?
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Judy Giovangelo, the founder of Ben Speaks and Advanced Grief Recovery Specialist, who vulnerably shares her heart-wrenching story of losing her son Ben to suicide at just 18 years old.
Judy opens up about the incredibly unique soul that Ben was, the challenges they faced throughout his life, and the profound spiritual experiences — including past life regressions — that helped them both understand their deeper connection and purpose. After finding him in their garage, Judy’s world shattered… but from the ashes, something extraordinary was born.
We talk about:
This is not just a story of loss — it’s a story of love, legacy, and the healing power of transformation....and all the messy moments in between.
👉 Learn more about Judy’s work at judygio.com
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— Em Hollis
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In this solo episode, I open up about what vulnerability and authenticity really look like for me behind the scenes.
I share insights from a recent course I completed on emotional awareness and the VIEW state of mind — a powerful lens that has helped me become more present and self-compassionate during emotionally challenging times.
I also take you inside my personal process for reparenting myself when my inner child wants to rebel or self-sabotage. If you’ve ever found yourself spiraling into old patterns when things feel hard, or struggling with self sabotage, this episode will offer you both compassion and tools to find your way back to center....and into your own success.
In this episode, I share:
💫 Whether you're on a transformational journey or just learning to unconditionally love your messy humanness — this episode's for you.
If you are interested in finding out more on the Connection Course by the Art of Accomplishment as mentioned in the episode, check out👇🏻
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— Em Hollis
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In this super raw and revealing episode, I sit down with Luke Beastall, former semi-pro footballer turned entrepreneur, coach, and all-around powerhouse of authenticity.
Luke opens up candidly about his journey from chasing a dream on the football field to battling body image issues, dealing with bullying, losing himself and his confidence, launching a successful personal training business — and then losing everything. But it was in the ashes of that loss that Luke reconnected with his truth, redefined what success actually means to him, and began building a life rooted in what really matters.
We dive deep into:
👉🏻The dark side of semi professional football culture
Luke’s story is a powerful reminder that the most important transformation we make isn’t in our business or our body — it’s in who we allow ourselves to become as we reconnect with who we really are.
💥 Whether you’re a coach, entrepreneur, athlete, or someone in a massive life transition, this one will hit home. It is a MUST watch!!
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— Em Hollis
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This episode is a raw, vulnerable, and incredibly empowering conversation with transformation coach Julia Phoenix — a woman who has lived through some of the most intense trauma imaginable and turned her pain into profound purpose.
Julia opens up about growing up with parents in a cult, enduring sexual abuse as a child, and being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes at age 10. From those early traumatic experiences came a cascade of coping mechanisms — eating disorders, substance abuse, and repeated stints in treatment centers.
But what makes Julia’s story so impactful is not just what she went through… it’s how she transformed it.
In this episode, we explore:
Julia’s voice is one that needs to be heard. Her story is one of true alchemy — turning pain into power, addiction into awareness, and trauma into transformation.
This episode builds and builds until it hits a climax at the end with some of the most powerful insights I have ever heard.....and you wont' want to miss these gems!!!💎
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— Em Hollis
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In this powerful and raw episode, Em Hollis is joined by life coach Lyndsay Gilson, founder of Embody You, for a deep and honest conversation about what happens when chronic compassion fatigue, people-pleasing, and perfectionism push you to your edge.
Lyndsay vulnerably shares the moment everything came crashing down — a breaking point at work that forced her to look within and finally begin the healing journey she had been avoiding. From the darkest moments of 2017 to the rollercoaster ride of transformation since, she opens up about the messy truth of what true inner work looks like.
This episode dives into:
Lyndsay is now a powerful coach guiding high achieving women into their own healing and alignment, helping them get off the burnout hamster wheel and create a life that actually feels good.
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— Em Hollis
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The Illness Was the Messenger – Cindy Costley’s 35-Year Healing Journey
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Cindy Costley, founder of The Underlying Answers and creator of the Electromagnetic Body Desensitization Technique™ (EBDT™), to unpack a nearly 35-year journey of illness, awakening, and radical healing.
Cindy shares her extraordinary story of living with a rare autoimmune condition that left her allergic to almost everything — food, environments, life itself. After decades of chronic pain, isolation, and finding herself on death's door, Cindy finally discovered what her body was really trying to tell her.
This conversation explores:
Whether you're navigating chronic illness, emotional trauma, or the quest to live more aligned and free — this episode will expand your perspective and give you hope. It is truly one of those inspirational stories you will never forget!
🔗 Learn more about Cindy’s work at: https://theunderlyinganswers.com
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— Em Hollis
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This is the episode that shouldn't be! Tune in to hear why I am taking a break.
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Are you ready to hear what no one else will tell you about the emotional rollercoaster of starting and running a heart-led business?
In this raw and real solo episode of The Messy Truth of Transformation, Em Hollis opens up about the behind-the-scenes truth of building a spiritual business—from the breakdowns to the breakthroughs.
Whether you're a coach, healer, soul-led entrepreneur, or want to create a more aligned profession, this episode will give you a grounded look at the inner work required to truly succeed; and the pitfalls to avoid along the way.
Em also shares 4 must-know lessons for anyone stepping into spiritual entrepreneurship so you can lead with alignment, courage, and clarity and actually maintain profitability.
💎What you’ll hear in this episode:
This is the episode you didn’t know you needed—until now.
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— Em Hollis
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In this raw and soul-expanding episode, I sit down with the radiant and heart centered Yummi Nguyen to explore the often-misunderstood space between spiritual growth and our very real human experience.
Yummi shares her deeply personal story — including a moment of such darkness and despair that she nearly jumped in front of a train. Stuck in a marriage that wasn’t aligned and paralyzed by anxiety and depression, she eventually found her way back to her true nature. Through healing her mind and her heart, she reclaimed her true calling: helping others move from fear into love.
We talk about:
💔 Why so many spiritual seekers bypass their humanity
This is for anyone who’s ever felt like they’re “doing the work” but still feel disconnected or stuck. It’s a compassionate reminder that your humanity isn’t the problem — it’s the pathway.
🎧 Tune in now to experience Yummi’s medicine of love, presence, and truth.
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— Em Hollis
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In this unapologetically raw and powerful episode, I’m joined by the one and only Kyera Kacey — a bold force in the world of personal and professional transformation and wealth creation.
Kyera doesn’t sugarcoat anything. She shares the messy, behind-the-scenes truth of her journey to wealth — including the hard lessons, emotional breakdowns, and moments most people would never post about on Instagram.
We unpack:
Kyera Kacey is an international bestselling author, keynote speaker, and the CEO & founder of LibeateHER™, a global movement helping women everywhere reclaim their power and build lives of unapologetic wealth and freedom.
If you’re ready for real talk about money, power, feminine leadership, and what it actually takes to rise — this is your episode.
From the publisher's feed
The Messy Truth of Transformation is a podcast about what it actually looks like to grow, heal, and evolve. Forget the highlight reel—this is where we get real, and talk about the breakdowns, the breakthroughs, and all the WTF moments in between. This podcast shines a light on the chrysalis moments, emotional unraveling, and sacred chaos that often gets left out of the “love and light” narrative.
Hosted by Em Hollis, a guide who’s walked through the fire of personal and spiritual growth, this show is here to normalize the messy middle—the parts no one wants to talk about but everyone goes through.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing it “wrong” because your journey isn’t all rainbows and butterflies, you’re in the right place. Here, we normalize the breakdowns, celebrate the breakthroughs, and offer tools to navigate the in-between. If you’re walking your path, feeling alone in your journey, or questioning everything—this space is for you.
Welcome to the show, where your messy transformation is not just accepted—it’s honored.
For more messy truths, head on over to my website, www.emhollis.life
Or follow along on Instagram, @emhollis-thesage