The Misha Method

What does real allyship look like in construction?

Mick Penn, Northern California Regional Director of Community Relations at Swinerton, joins me to talk about how men can show up for women in construction — helping them grow, level up, and win work. He shares how relationships drive everything in this industry, and what it takes to bring subcontractors and trade partners onto projects at one of the nation's largest general contractors.

Mick is a true champion, not only for women in construction, but for community and inclusion across the industry. And while workforce development isn't his day job, it's his personal passion and mission: connecting people to construction careers every chance he gets. He's also a huge supporter of WCOE and The Misha Method, and this conversation shows exactly why partnership moves our industry forward.

Connect with Mick: LinkedIn | Swinerton

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I didn't record this podcast for a few months. It wasn't burnout. It was something else.

I came back with one sentence. It reset how I run my calendar, my company, and my energy. And it's not the sentence I thought it was.

If you're a woman leader who built her career on being the reliable one, the yes, the safe pair of hands, the one who gets it done, this episode is for you.

Inside:

• The real reason I went quiet (and why the timing was uncomfortable to own)
• The mistake most of us make when we look at our own calendars
• The system I use now to decide what actually gets my energy
• Three things I'm putting real weight behind before the year ends

One question I want you sitting with by the end:

• What's on your list right now that is quietly draining you, that doesn't belong to this season?

Links:

• Reset Before the Build 9/8 — A wellness morning at Natane's. El Dorado Hills. 20 spots. Register: https://tally.so/r/gDOvdP (Natane is amazing, check out episode 24),
• SRBX CIEF Conference 9/9-9/10 — I'll be speaking on The Million Dollar Convo: bringing your trade partners on early. Register under WCOE for $60 off: https://www.cie.foundation/wic.html
• WCOE California Annual Conference — October 19-20 in Coronado. I serve as President; male allies welcome. Register: https://www.wcoecalifornia.com/annual-conference

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In this episode of The Misha Method, we sit down with Natane Rogers Engle, owner of SR Diversified, a Women-Owned and Women-Run Heavy Civil & Electrical Contractor serving the Western U.S. Natane shares her incredible journey from working in the field to leading one of the most respected construction companies in her space.

We talk about resilience, the realities of breaking barriers in a male-dominated industry, and what it really takes to juggle motherhood, leadership, and self-care while building something extraordinary. Natane opens up about the challenges, lessons, and mindset shifts that have fueled her success, and the importance of staying grounded through it all.

If you’ve ever wondered how to build both a career and a life you’re proud of, this conversation will leave you inspired and ready to redefine what’s possible.

Connect with Natane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natane-rogers-engle-9034b434/

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“Your identity sets you apart.” Creating spaces where women lead, belong, and thrive.

In this episode of The Misha Method, Misha and Dr. Sabeeta dig into identity-driven leadership: how to turn what makes you different into your competitive edge, set boundaries without burning bridges, and protect your energy so you can lead with clarity on site and in the office.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever been the only woman in the room. We break down mindset, micro-habits, and systems that make leadership sustainable, while we highlight how Pegbo is reshaping procurement to bring more diverse, qualified partners to the table.

Connect with Dr. Sabeeta : https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-sabeeta-bidasie-singh-8b363646 

Learn more about Pegbo: https://pegbo.com/

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🚧 From vision to reality! Hear how Chrissie Davis, the powerhouse behind Incorage turned her passion into a thriving general contracting firm. In this episode, she shares what pushed her to finally take the leap, the challenges she faced, and the fire that keeps her going.

🎙️ Whether you're thinking of starting something of your own or just need a dose of inspiration, this one’s for you.

🔥 Tap the link and get ready to be empowered.

Stay connected with Chrissie:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissie-davis-general-contractor/

Check out Incourage:

www.IncorageGC.com

https://www.linkedin.com/company/incorage-general-contractors/posts/?feedView=all

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In this episode, we're joined by Caroline Raffetto, a powerhouse at Lumber, who's shaking up the construction world! 🚧💥 Caroline takes us behind the scenes of her journey into the construction industry, sharing how she made her mark and why Lumber is a game-changer in the sector.

But that’s not all—Caroline gets real about the importance of mental health in a fast-paced industry. We talk about how to keep your cup full (because you can’t pour from an empty one!) and why taking care of yourself is key to thriving in any role. 💪🏼✨

If you’re ready for a dose of inspiration, some cool industry insights, and a few tips on staying sane while climbing the career ladder, this episode is for you!

Stay connected with Caroline: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-raffetto-719300206 

Learn more about Lumber: https://www.lumberfi.com

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🔥 What if wastewater could heat and cool entire buildings? In this electrifying episode, Misha sits down with Leslie Fangman, a powerhouse in district energy, to explore how innovative energy solutions are reshaping the future of sustainability.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

✅ How wastewater is being transformed into a renewable energy source 🌍

✅ The game-changing Denver district energy project—North America’s largest sewer-heat recovery system 🔥

✅ Why sustainable infrastructure is the key to greener cities & smarter construction

🎙 Don’t miss Leslie’s insights on the future of clean energy, strategic infrastructure, and how YOU can be part of the movement!

👥 Connect with Leslie LinkedIn

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Join us for a special episode as we dive into Plant & Play 2025, our annual event at TriCore Panels, happening on March 8th! This incredible day is all about community, sustainability, and empowerment—bringing together women in construction, families, and industry leaders to build a brighter future, one seed at a time.

We’ll share the heart behind this event, what to expect, and how you can get involved in making an impact. Whether it’s planting the seeds for growth (literally and figuratively) or strengthening the bonds within our construction community, this event is about building something meaningful—together.

👉 RSVP here: Plant & Play RSVP Link

Check out last year’s amazing event here! 

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Forget formal introductions and scripted pitches—this episode is all about the unexpected, game-changing hallway conversations that make networking events truly unforgettable. It’s not the keynote speeches or panel discussions that spark the most meaningful collaborations—it’s those spontaneous moments over coffee, between sessions, or in the hallway where genuine connections are formed.

🎧 Tune in to discover:

✨ Why the best opportunities often happen off the agenda.

✨ Stories of chance encounters that led to groundbreaking partnerships.

✨ Tips for turning casual conversations into career-shaping moments.

If you’ve ever left an event with a connection that changed your trajectory, you know what we’re talking about. Click play and find out how to make the most of these magical, unplanned moments!

Because sometimes, the real power of networking isn’t in the event—it’s in the hallway.

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Ready to take your life and business to the next level? In this episode of the Misha Method podcast, we’re diving deep with the powerhouse Renee Ruso—author of Ready to rise, expert EOS implementor, and exit strategist who knows exactly how to help you thrive. Discover the secrets to managing your energy like a pro, designing a life that lights you up, and planning your ultimate business exit strategy. Renee delivers the kind of game-changing insights you can’t afford to miss—plus, get an exclusive sneak peek at the transformational Misha Method Retreat that’s got everyone talking! ( We have opened up 2 spots: https://buy.stripe.com/aEU8A22Ch6LCfss5kl)

Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:

1. Energy Management for Peak Performance: Renee dives into practical strategies to maintain balance, avoid burnout, and maximize your energy—the secret ingredient for sustained success.
2. Why Every Business Owner Needs an Exit Strategy: Whether you're just starting or decades into your entrepreneurial journey, the reality is that every business owner will eventually exit their business. Renee emphasizes the importance of having a clear plan and systems in place to ensure a seamless transition and protect the legacy you’ve worked so hard to build.
3. Designing a Life You Love: Learn how to align your business with your personal goals and values, creating a life of purpose and fulfillment.
4. A Sneak Peek at the Misha Method Retreat: Get an exclusive preview of what’s in store at the upcoming Misha Method Retreat—an immersive experience designed to help you reset, recharge, and redesign your path forward.

Building a business is one of the most rewarding yet challenging paths you can take. But without the right systems and a well-thought-out exit strategy, you risk burnout or leaving money and impact on the table. Renee’s expertise will inspire you to think differently about how you manage your energy, your business, and your future.

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