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  • AI Translation, Culture, and the Myth of Missions Shortcuts

    Can AI technology shortcut language barriers for the gospel?

    Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford explore the connection between language, culture, and gospel communication. They discuss Apple’s new AirPods Pro 3 with Live Translation and explain why technology can’t replace the slow, intentional work of learning a language. Scott shares personal stories from learning Mandarin, showing how culture shapes meaning and how simple translation can miss the point.

    They also warn against reductionistic approaches to missions that downplay language learning and rely too much on quick methods. God Himself prepared a cultural framework over centuries for Christ’s coming, which shows why missionaries must engage deeply with local language and culture to clearly communicate the gospel.

    Key Topics
    • Apple AirPods Pro 3 with Live Translationand the excitement and limitations for missions work
    • Language and culture as inseparable
    • How language shapes thought and the need for teaching new concepts
    • Cultural literacy and understanding local history, customs, and “insider language”
    • Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!

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        30 min
      • The Sin of Empathy? Leadership, Sabotage, and Missions With Joe Rigney

        Can empathy be a bad thing?

        This week, Alex and Scott sit down with Joe Rigney, Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrew's College and pastor, as they explore the challenges of Christian leadership, ministry, and missions, and the dangers of emotional sabotage and untethered empathy. Rigney explains that in times of turmoil, leaders must maintain mission clarity and resist being derailed by reactive or manipulative pressures within their organizations.

        Joe Rigney discusses that rather than being an unqualified good, empathy can be wielded as emotional blackmail, steering ministries away from their God-given purposes. They also focus on principles of mobilization and missions. Rigney stresses that appeals to missions should be rooted not in guilt but in gratitude, joy, and faith in God’s future grace.

        Key Topics
        • The concept of mission drift and how institutions get derailed in anxious times
        • Difference between biblical compassion and untethered empathy
        • The dangers of empathy as emotional blackmail and manipulation
        • How appeals to missions should be based on truth and joy, not guilt
        • Building sober-minded, resilient leaders who can withstand cultural and emotional pressures
        • Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!

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            30 min
          • Missions and Philosophy: Does it Matter for Missionaries? With Dr. David Talcott

            Does studying classical philosophy have any relevance for missions today?

            In this episode, Alex and Scott talk with Dr. David Talcott, a philosopher and faculty member at New Saint Andrew’s College, to discuss the intersection of philosophy, culture, and missions. They ask the famous question “What hath Athens to do with Jerusalem?”—whether philosophy and Scripture can meaningfully interact. Drawing from Acts 17, they explore how Paul’s intellectual preparation and knowledge of Greek culture allowed him to engage with Stoic and Epicurean philosophers, modeling how missionaries today should understand and address the intellectual frameworks of their host cultures.

            The discussion broadens into how classical philosophy, particularly Plato and Aristotle, still speaks into modern challenges such as relativism, skepticism, and materialism. Dr. Talcott emphasizes that philosophy provides categories and arguments that can prepare hearts and minds for the gospel, acting as a kind of “preparatory grace.”

            Key Topics Covered:

            • The question: “What hath Athens to do with Jerusalem?”—philosophy and theology in harmony
            • Acts 17 as a model for missionary engagement with culture and thought
            • Relevance of classical philosophy for confronting modern ideologies (materialism, relativism, skepticism)
            • The role of “common grace” in pagan philosophies and cultures
            • The movement to retrieve classical theology and its value for missions today
            • Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!

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                The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

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                29 min
              • Penal Substitutionary Atonement and Theories of the Cross

                How do you fully understand and explain the work of Jesus on the cross?

                In this episode, Alex and Scott explore the doctrine of the atonement, focusing on the concept of Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) and contrasting it with other historical and theological views. The discussion walks through various atonement theories—including the Moral Influence, Ransom, and Christus Victor views and more—acknowledging elements of truth in each while highlighting their limitations compared to PSA.

                Lastly, they discuss the missiological implications, countering the claim that PSA is purely a Western, legalistic construct. Instead, they stress that guilt and innocence are universal moral realities recognized across cultures, and missionaries should faithfully present the biblical doctrine while adapting metaphors and illustrations for local understanding.

                Key Topics

                • Importance of understanding the atonement for cross-cultural missions.
                • Overview of major atonement theories: Moral Influence, Ransom, Christus Victor, Satisfaction, Governmental, and Scapegoat.
                • Strengths and weaknesses of each theory compared to Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA).
                • Scriptural foundations for PSA and its theological depth.
                • Addressing the critiques of PSA.
                • Practical considerations for contextualizing PSA in missionary work.
                • Download the transcript for this episode.

                  Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!

                  Do you love The Missions Show? Have you been blessed by the show? Then become a Premium Subscriber!

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                    The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

                    Want to ask a question or suggest a topic? Email [email protected].

                    29 min
                  • Babies, Schools, and Church Planting in Papua New Guinea: Bill and Lori Smith

                    What does ministry fruitfulness look like in Papua New Guinea?

                    Alex Kocman talks with Bill and Lori Smith, veteran ABWE missionaries who have served in Papua New Guinea (PNG) for nearly 40 years. The Smiths share their journey into missions, the unique cultural and spiritual challenges in PNG, and the dual nature of their ministry—training pastors and missionaries at Goroka Baptist Bible College and providing medical care through a high-volume clinic and foster care ministry.

                    Bill and Lori emphasize that while PNG is often labeled a “Christian nation,” deep-rooted animism, syncretism, and spiritual oppression are prevalent, creating ongoing needs for evangelism, discipleship, and training indigenous missionaries to reach both remote PNG tribes and neighboring Pacific nations. They share real-life stories of God’s miraculous interventions and how, through it all, God is allowing them to plant churches, one baby at a time.

                    Key Topics

                    • Bill and Lori Smith’s background and calling to missions in Papua New Guinea
                    • Cultural context: animism, syncretism, and hidden spiritual strongholds despite widespread Christianity
                    • Goroka Baptist Bible College: 50 years of ministry, 500 graduates, 300+ churches planted
                    • Medical ministry: serving 150 patients per day, maternal care, and gospel witness
                    • To find out more about the Smith's ministry and to get involved, visit abwe.org/png. You can also contact Bill and Lori by emailing [email protected] or [email protected].

                      Download the transcript for this episode.

                      Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!

                      Do you love The Missions Show? Have you been blessed by the show? Then become a Premium Subscriber!

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                        The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

                        Want to ask a question or suggest a topic? Email [email protected].

                        28 min
                      • The Theology of AI With C.R. Wiley

                        How do we theologically look at AI?

                        Alex and Scott sit down with C.R. Wiley, an author, pastor, and podcaster on the theological and cultural implications of artificial intelligence (AI). Wiley outlines how AI—particularly large language models—presents both a technological revolution and a spiritual challenge. He frames AI development as not merely a technical progression but a competing eschatology—a vision of the future that rivals Christian hope.

                        Wiley stresses that AI technologies—especially when perceived as sentient or divine—serve as modern idols that can fulfill spiritual functions, replacing prayer, human affirmation, and even "divine" guidance. This functional idolatry, he argues, should concern Christians deeply. Finally, Wiley calls the church to prepare not only ethically but also spiritually for a future increasingly shaped by machine intelligence.

                        Key Topics:
                        • Large Language Models (LLMs) and their limitations
                        • The black-box nature of AI and the dangers of unintended outcomes
                        • Transhumanism as a form of rival eschatology to Christianity
                        • AI as a functional god/idol in a secular age
                        • Social, psychological, and pedagogical harms of AI
                        • Urgency for ethical and spiritual discernment in engaging AI technologies
                        • Download the transcript for this episode.

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                            32 min
                          • The Dangers of Muslim Insider Movements and Translations With Dr. Ant Greenham

                            What constitutes a Muslim idiom Bible translation, and why is it dangerous?

                            Alex and Scott sit down with Dr. Ant Greenham, a retired professor of Islamic Studies at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, to address the theological and missiological dangers associated with Muslim Insider Movements (MIMs) and insider Bible translations. Dr. Greenham critiques the approach where biblical terminology is replaced with alternatives like to make the gospel palatable to Muslim audiences.

                            Dr. Greenham explains the two major frameworks guiding missions: the theological approach, which emphasizes doctrinal faithfulness, and the anthropological approach, which focuses on cultural accessibility.

                            Key Topics
                            • Muslim Idiom Translations (MITs) and Muslim Insider Movements
                            • Theological vs. Anthropological Approaches in Missions
                            • Concerns with omitting critical doctrines due to cultural accommodation
                            • Ethical Concerns: “Bait and Switch” Evangelism
                            • Proper Contextualization and Relationship Building
                            • Download the transcript for this episode.

                              Is God calling you to missions? ABWE can help you find the opportunities and support you need to bring the gospel to the nations, plant churches, and disciple believers. Start the conversation with us today at abwe.org/sendme.

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                                The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

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                                31 min
                              • Cultural and Social Realities of Ministry in South Africa With Nate Bell

                                In this episode, Alex and Scott talk with Nate Bell, an ABWE missionary serving in Cape Town, South Africa. Nate shares his current focus on church planting and ministry among South Africa’s diverse people groups. He explains the historical complexities of South Africa’s racial and cultural dynamics, shaped by both Dutch and British colonization and apartheid. Nate details how these dynamics still influence communities today, including deep-seated divisions among white Afrikaners, white South Africans of British descent, and colored and black South Africans.

                                Nate highlights that although about 80% of South Africans identify as Christian, many have a works-based understanding of salvation, especially within the Dutch Reformed Church tradition, and lack a clear grasp of the gospel message. Nate shared honestly about the challenges and learning curve of ministering in such a context as an American, stressing humility, continual learning, and reliance on the unity found in Christ.

                                Key Topics
                                • The historical impact of Dutch and British colonialism and apartheid on South Africa’s social dynamics.
                                • The divisions among South African communities: Afrikaners, British descendants, colored, and black South Africans.
                                • Challenges in articulating the true gospel in a culture with nominal Christian identity.
                                • The difficulty of planting multicultural churches in segregated and historically divided communities.
                                • The importance of humility, cultural sensitivity, and learning for missionaries.
                                • To reach out to Nate about his ministry in South Africa, you can email [email protected].

                                  Download the transcript for this episode.

                                  God has already called many people to the mission field, but they need your support to get there. Help someone in Prefield get to where God is calling them by prayerfully supporting their ministry at abwe.org/Prefield.

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                                    The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

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                                    30 min
                                  • What Is a Nation and Why Does It Matter?

                                    We are called to make disciples of all nations, but what is the biblical definition of a nation?

                                    Alex and Scott explore the complex question of what defines a "nation" and why it matters for missions. They discuss the popular idea that America is merely "an idea," challenging this reductionist view by highlighting that a nation is more than shared values; it also includes shared language, ethnicity, culture, religion, and self-conception as a unified whole.

                                    Drawing heavily on the biblical texts, they emphasize that God's plan involves not only individuals but distinct nations and people groups worshiping Him. Understanding what constitutes a nation shapes how Christians think about the Great Commission and the ultimate goal of reaching all peoples with the gospel.

                                    Key Topics
                                    • The definition and components of a nation (language, ethnicity, culture, religion, land, and self-conception)
                                    • Challenges to the idea that America is purely an "idea"
                                    • The biblical vision of nations in the Great Commission and in Revelation
                                    • The globalizing impulse in Christianity and its implications for mission strategy
                                    • The theological dangers of tribalism and radical globalism
                                    • Interview with Vishal Mangalwadi that was referenced in the episode.

                                      Download the transcript of this episode.

                                      Get more of the conversation by becoming a Missions Podcast Premium Subscriber! Alex and Scott continue in the bonus Overtime episode to explore if God's grace erases our cultural and ethnic distinctions. Get access at missionspodstg.wpengine.com/premium.

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                                      32 min
                                    • Motherhood on Mission: Purpose Amid the Mundane With Simona Gorton

                                      How can the mundane of motherhood be extraordinary?

                                      Alex and Scott talk with Simona Gorton, an author, wife, and mother deeply engaged in local church ministry and missions. Drawing on her experiences with 9Marks and her work translating resources into over 60 languages, she emphasizes the importance of the local church as a training ground and the value of serving where God has placed you, even in seemingly ordinary roles.

                                      Simona also discusses her book Mothering Against Futility, which explores Ecclesiastes and the tension between the mundane and the eternal. She challenges mothers and young women to embrace the daily, unseen work as meaningful in the Kingdom of Heaven, connecting everyday tasks to God's eternal purposes.

                                      Key Topics
                                      • The theological foundation of motherhood and everyday tasks
                                      • Lessons from Ecclesiastes on finding meaning amid daily repetition
                                      • Advice to young women considering missions: start with local service
                                      • Encouragement for churches to affirm and support women and mothers in their roles
                                      • Practical ways to disciple children to value godly character over recognition
                                      • Download the transcript for this episode.

                                        Want to hear more of the conversation? Become a Missions Podcast Premium Subscriber to hear Alex, Scott, and Simona talk about the life of Elaine Townsend and how we can be encouraging young women and mothers in our churches. Sign up at missionspodstg.wpengine.com/premium.

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                                          The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

                                          Want to ask a question or suggest a topic? Email [email protected].

                                          29 min