The Mo and Katy Show

Are you creative, crafty, or both? This week Mo and Katy dig into the difference, borrowing a line from their friend Amber: "I'm creative, but I'm not crafty."

From a yarn pig made mid-flight to a crochet lesson that cost one baby tooth, they trade stories about the things they've made and why they make them. One of them is in it for the process. The other just wants it DONE. Plus: why Humpty Dumpty may not be an egg, a former Girl Scout who was afraid of matches and is now a self-proclaimed pyro, the Jet Cadets for Jesus, and a thrift store "handmade rescue" mission.

Then things get real: in a world of AI, can a machine ever replace something made by human hands? Their answer: it's not the artifact, it's the story. Your flavor, your stink and your stitch.

Normal is off the table - and apparently, so is standing right on top of the baggage carousel.

We’re Mo and Katy, unlikely best friends finding common ground in a world obsessed with differences. We’re well into our second act, officially done editing ourselves and bringing plenty of experience, even more opinions and absolutely no intention of quietly fading into the background.

This week, we’re talking travel: the plane-touching ritual we swear by, the middle-seat armrest rules nobody should have to explain and the airport behaviors that make us wonder if people have ever met other people before. We share stories from delayed flights, baggage claim, airport lounges and one unexpected trip back to the gate.

There are eye-rolls, shower thoughts, strong opinions about shoes and a surprisingly heartfelt reminder that shared experiences - even inconvenient ones - can bring strangers together.

Sometimes we’re hilarious. Sometimes we’re heartfelt. Sometimes we have no idea where this is going.

Life is messy. People are fascinating. Connection happens in unexpected places.

It’s weird in here. Let’s talk about it.

Mo and Katy - unlikely best friends finding common ground in a world obsessed with differences - talk about how knowing your purpose changes the way you make decisions, ask for help and show up with confidence.

In this episode, they get candid about apologizing less, owning what you are and aren’t good at and honoring the people who make a lasting impact. Along the way, they question unspoken expectations, share some shower-thought-worthy examples and find the humor in what they’re still figuring out.

Sometimes it’s heartfelt, sometimes it’s funny and sometimes it goes somewhere unexpected. That’s the point: life is messy, people are fascinating and connection can show up in surprising places.

Mo and Katy return from hiatus while storms rumble overhead, July 4th reflections and a celebration of women doing wildly impressive things. From Kelsey Pfendler's record-breaking solo row across the Pacific to GQ becoming the first all-female quartet to win the Barbershop Harmony Society championship, this episode explores courage, craft, goals and doing the thing your way.

Also: goats, ripped pants, moonshine research and a nautical Sound of Music detour no one asked for.

It's the last day of May (AKA June Eve) and Mo is going outside to howl at the blue moon and manifest some things. But first: a riff on the real power behind speaking your goals out loud, why writing them down actually works and why manifesting a specific house address may not be how it works (apparently there are rules).

From there, Mo and Katy toast a season of milestones - Katy's final recitals and her last seniors, Mo's mom turning 88, the WASP Singalong Songbook becoming a tangible thing, a live show at the Columbiana Arts Theater, a river cruise, birthday cake across multiple states (with one small geography hiccup) and a retirement party game for their friend Janene.

Plus: sympathetic resonance as a framework for believing in things, the dickey industrial complex, passwords you can't remember and what Jim Fixx really teaches us about working out.

Mo and Katy record from a church (using a magnifying glass as a ring light, long story) right after Katy's third student recital of the season. They talk about what it really means to teach music - spoiler: it's not about the music. It's about giving kids a safe space to be vulnerable, teaching them to ground themselves when performance anxiety hits and creating a community where fifth graders and high school seniors cheer each other on from the front pews.

Mo reflects on the difference between interacting with someone and actually connecting with them, why some servers can hang and some can't and how just because you interacted with somebody doesn't mean you actually saw them.

Katy explains why she stopped printing programs, doing receptions and taking herself so seriously as a vocal performance major who swore she'd never teach kids (spoiler: she teaches a lot of kids now).

They also talk about Memorial Day - not the grills-and-pool-floats version, but the actual somber reflection on people who gave the last full measure of devotion.

And they remind you: the thing is rarely about the thing. Sometimes you just need to stop and ask what the thing behind the thing actually is.

Recorded live from a Methodist church where coffee is allowed and magnifying lights are used inappropriately.

Mo and Katy dive into Mo's first real pickleball experience - complete with competitive racquetball instincts, an 11-year-old opponent and some questionable "dick moves" on the court.

The conversation flows from the gamification of exercise (Dance Dance Revolution, anyone?) to the psychology of dopamine hits, prize boxes and birthday stickers. Mo shares how she leverages technology to remember important dates and why calling someone on their birthday matters more than we think.

Plus: the difference between squash and racquetball, why nobody should lick stamps from the 1900s and a very important PSA about keeping glue sticks away from your lips.

It's a warm, funny exploration of human connection, the small gestures that make us feel seen, and why sometimes the best workouts don't feel like workouts at all.

Mo and Katy celebrate Mother's Day by reflecting on the transformative power of live performance and relational connection.

From Spencer Horsman's intimate magic shows at Illusions Bar to Katy's recital season prep, they explore why the same show is never quite the same twice. The duo dives into what makes experiences truly memorable - whether it's moderating WASP panels, teaching voice lessons or traveling with your best friend. Along the way, expect tangents about armadillo shirts, owl purses, Tootsie Pops and why being relational instead of transactional changes everything.

Plus: the care and feeding of your Moey, trunk songs vs. torch songs and the inevitable morning pun sessions that happen on every road trip.

Most entrepreneurs and busy professionals are rushing through their routines without realizing how certain moments of pause can transform their mindset and productivity. What if the key to clarity isn’t more hustle, but intentional interruption? 

Discover a simple yet powerful framework—full stop—that helps you reset, reflect and realign with your goals in less than five minutes a day.

For this FULL STOP Friday, Mo and Katy unpack how a small shift—interrupting the rush, pausing with purpose and adding a tiny twist—can generate big breakthroughs. They share real stories of how this practice has helped them and their clients make smarter decisions, embrace change and find joy in the everyday chaos. 

You’ll learn why stopping isn’t a sign of weakness but a strategic tool that builds resilience and clarity.

We break down specific tactics: how to incorporate "full stop" moments into your workflow, the surprising science behind spaced repetition and reflection and how playful pauses like games can supercharge your creativity. 

Plus, get actionable exercises to reflect on your life over the past five years - an essential step for entrepreneurs craving purpose and perspective amidst the overwhelm.

Failing to pause can leave you on autopilot, missing opportunities for growth and gratitude. But when you master the art of the full stop, you unlock a clearer vision, deeper connections and a more intentional way of living. If you're ready to challenge the rush and embrace your next shift with confidence, this episode is your blueprint.

Perfect for entrepreneurs, leaders and anyone feeling overwhelmed by constant busyness - this is your invitation to stop doing so you can start truly being. 

Tune in, reflect and take your first full stop today.

We picked back up on Zoom after Riverside staged a quiet revolt, and honestly? The conversation got better.

Mo unpacks something she's been noticing across multiple high-stakes gigs: the tank.

The Boston book signing tank.

The post-Lockheed-Martin tank.

The Air Force Academy tank, 90% through a panel she was moderating after two and a half days of being fully, relentlessly on.

What causes it? What helps? (Short answer: Katy. Also Smarties.)

We also talk about why looking back five years matters more than most people let themselves do and why if you minimize the struggle, you minimize the success.

Plus: Mo tried to fill out a five-year timeline graphic and genuinely could not remember half of what she'd built.

Jen could. That's the whole lesson. This is Part 2 of 2.