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In this episode of The Dee-Brief Show, Dee is joined by Derek Thomas, a former headteacher and author.

Derek shares his personal story of pushing on for years, holding himself to high standards while his health slipped down the priority list—until a major health wake-up call forced him to stop.

He reflects on rethinking priorities, restoring balance, and making different choices, including climbing Kilimanjaro. Derek also discusses what that shift revealed about how he now lives and leads.