The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark joins Alex Hardee, Executive Vice President & 'Special Agent' at Wasserman Music.

Touching on some of the biz's top headlines, Alex shares his thoughts on the ongoing frenzy around dynamic ticket pricing and potential solutions, he also discusses the challenges artists face with the EU’s touring regulations.

Reflecting on his early days working with Liam Gallagher, Alex speculates on contenders for the next big music reunion. The conversation also dives into how streaming platforms are rigged, particularly favouring the U.S. market, and the impact this has on the global music scene.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark sits down with Ben Wynter, the visionary Founder of Unstoppable Music Group, Co-Founder of Power Up, and Director of Business Development & Partnerships at AIM (Association of Independent Music).

Looking back on his early career, Ben shares stories of pitching to managers on the street, securing spontaneous internships in New York, and navigating the challenges faced by Black executives. He also opens up about lessons from his mother, and the power of using your voice in leadership.

The conversation digs into industry reflections, four years after George Floyd, touching on promises made by major labels, black squares, and Spotify’s controversial stance on Joe Rogan. Ben also recounts the time he accidentally left £2,000 on a train and his unforgettable experience of taking iconic photos with Beyoncé and Kelly Rowland. 

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark sits down with Alan Edwards, the founder of public relations powerhouse, The Outside Organisation.

As the buzz around the Oasis revival dominates headlines, Alan delves into the potential ripple effects of the band's reunion on the music industry, particularly its influence on grassroots venues.

Often hailed as the godfather of modern PR, Alan recounts some of the most iconic moments of his career, sharing behind-the-scenes stories from his work with legends like David Bowie, the Spice Girls, Motörhead, and Amy Winehouse. He also provides an insightful look at how the PR landscape has evolved, defining what truly constitutes good PR in today’s world.

ALAN'S NEW BOOK: 'I Was There: Dispatches from a Life in Rock and Roll.'

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Helen Thomas, Head of BBC Radio 2, and Jeff Smith, Head of Music for BBC Radio 2 and 6 Music.

As they explore the evolving strategy at Radio 2, Helen and Jeff share insights on adapting to a new generation of listeners while continuing to serve the current audience, the rationale behind changing the presenter lineup, and the planning behind the much-anticipated Radio 2 in the Park. They also take us inside the Radio 2 playlist room, revealing the process behind curating one of the most influential & largest music playlists in the UK.

As well as discussing how Radio 2 is staying ahead in a rapidly changing media landscape and highlighting the importance of representation across the country, they explore the role of AI in the future of radio and what it means for the industry moving forward.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Alex Patterson & Will Lyons

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Various Artists CEO Dave Bianchi.

Throughout the conversation, Dave discusses the challenges of breaking UK acts internationally, exploring the complexities of selling music abroad and predicting where the next 'alt' music movement might emerge.

Beyond industry insights, including his new ventures with Various Artists, he shares his long journey in the music world—from lugging boxes for Pink Floyd to launching his own music night and eventually establishing key industry connections.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Jonathon Coughlin

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Island ex-CEO and President, A&R Legend and now Indie Label Head, Darcus Beese.

Giving the music industry headlines a miss this week (Mark's on holiday), Darcus dives into his journey from intern to industry leader, sharing stories of signing some of the biggest artists of the past few decades, including Amy Winehouse, Sugababes, and Florence + The Machine. As well as stories of A&R chaos, he shares his thoughts on the shifts in the music landscape, his decision to launch Darko Recordings, and what he looks for in successful artists today.

Darcus’s memoir, Rebel With a Cause: Roots, Records, and Revolutions, will be available from August 15, 2024.

'Rebel With a Cause: Roots, Records and Revolutions' - ORDER HERE

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Will Lyons & Alex Patterson

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by singer-songwriter Nina Nesbitt and manager Vicky Dowdall.

With a partnership going back to Nina’s teenage years, the pair reflect on the pivotal moments of their careers together, from handling major label deals to starting a label of their own Apple Tree Records.

They share the secret to their strong artist-manager relationship and recount stories of buying Irn-Bru for Stevie Nicks, auditioning for Simon Cowell, and singing karaoke with Justin Bieber.

'Mountain Music' - PRE-ORDER HERE

'Mountain Music' is available from 27th September on Apple Tree Records.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Will Lyons & Jonathan Coughlin

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Tara Richardson, not long after the launch of her new management company T-Time Management.

Tara discusses her decision to leave Q Prime and start her own company, sharing her vision for T-Time and her thoughts on the future of the music industry.

Reflecting on her journey in the music industry, Tara recounts her early days managing guest lists, working with Suggs, and touring Eastern Europe with The Prodigy. She also shares valuable lessons learned from industry legends Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein and explains what she now looks for in breaking new bands.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Will Lyons & Jonathan Coughlin

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark catches up with storied US label boss Daniel Glass.

On a fleeting London visit, Daniel reflects on the early days of his career, from the moment he fell in love with the market, to setting up a label from a hotel foyer, and his time at Chrysalis and Universal Records.

As well as sharing his thoughts on hustle culture and how to be a successful entrepreneur in today's music world, Daniel looks at what's ahead for Glassnote Records, sharing his predictions for new music 'arena fillers' and what they're doing right.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Will Lyons & Jonathan Coughlin

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by the new Music Managers Forum (MMF) CEO, Annabella Coldrick.

As well as digging into the latest music industry news, including major label restructuring and management lawsuits, the conversation explores how the role of music managers has evolved over the years, the key ways to make the industry fairer and how to create strong artist relationships.

NEWSLETTER

Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.

PPL 

The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.

KEEP UP TO DATE

For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: 

Instagram: @the_money_trench

LinkedIn: The Money Trench

Website: The Money Trench

GET IN TOUCH

If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!

Thanks to our partners

PPL 

Earth/Percent

Tom A Smith

Aimless Play

Fourth Pillar

Sennheiser

Junkhead Studio

Tape Notes

Executive Producer: Mike Walsh

Producer: Tape Notes 

Recorded and Edited: Jonathan Coughlin