What happens when Indigenous researchers respond to a Western museum calling a codex a "living ancestor"? In this season finale and our first episode entirely in Spanish, Dr. Omar Aguilar Sánchez, Mixtec archaeologist and founder of Colectivo Nchivi Ñuu Savi, and Mtro. Gibránn Becerra Álvarez, archaeologist and member of Voladores de Cuetzalan del Progreso, bring the voices that Part 1 was missing. They speak from their communities about codices as living heritage, rematriation, ongoing colonial processes, and why the definitions of "monument" and "cultural heritage" need to be rethought from the voices of the peoples themselves.
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¿Qué pasa cuando investigadores indígenas responden a un museo occidental que describe un códice como un "ancestro vivo"? En este final de temporada y nuestro primer episodio completamente en español, el Dr. Omar Aguilar Sánchez, arqueólogo mixteco, fundador y director del Colectivo Nchivi Ñuu Savi, y el Mtro. Gibránn Becerra Álvarez, arqueólogo e integrante de Voladores de Cuetzalan del Progreso, traen las voces que faltaban en la Parte 1. Nos hablan desde sus comunidades sobre los códices como patrimonio vivo, la rematriación, procesos coloniales vigentes, y por qué las definiciones de "monumento" y "patrimonio cultural" necesitan ser repensadas desde las voces de los pueblos.

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Host: Diana Hernandez

Interviewer: Diana Hernandez/ Gilbert C. Correa

Production: Noah Price

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When does an artifact in a museum reach "monumental" status? In this episode, we're exploring the concept of belongings as monuments, primarily focusing on the Amoxtli Tezcatlipoca (or the Codex Fejérváry-Mayer) with Meghan Backhouse from National Museums Liverpool and José Sherwood, an expert on the amoxtli. This will be the first part as the second part will be with Nahua scholars conducted in the spanish language. 

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price, Madeline Bonner

Production: Noah Price

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What is creative extremism? Michelle Browder uses this phrase from Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to describe her work as both an artist and activist in Montgomery, Alabama. In this episode, Michelle tells us about her company, More Than Tours, as well as the Mothers of Gynecology monument that she created in protest of the J. Marion Sims statue.

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price

Production: Noah Price

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In this episode, we're continuing our conversation about Freedmen's Town by turning toward some of the efforts currently happening to protect the infrastructure while also modernizing it as a livable community. We're joined by Sharon Fletcher, Executive Director of the Freedmen's Town Conservancy, who tells us why Freedmen's Town is a monument of worldwide importance. 

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price

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In this episode, we're meeting with the folks of Freedmen's Town in Houston, Texas. Freedmen's Town is a historic neighborhood developed entirely by the formerly enslaved people of the greater Houston area after their emancipation. However, preserving the town has been a challenge due to ongoing developments and modernization. Joining us from the Rutherford B. Yates Museum, Catherine Roberts and her colleagues tell us all about the history of the town as well as the advocacy work to keep it preserved as best as possible. 

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price, Madeline Bonner

Production: Noah Price

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Melancholy Lull by Vital

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How does a historic site become a national park? In this episode, we meet with Kevin Levin, an educator and public historian who tells about the process of turning Fort Pillow into a national historic site. We discuss the history of Fort Pillow, how students are involved in the discussion on monuments, and the various methods public historians use to reach new audiences. 

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price

Production: Noah Price

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Melancholy Lull by Vital

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We return today with the second and final part of our "Remembering La Matanza" series in response to today's violence against Americans of Mexican descent. Program Director Diana Hernandez and Community Engagement Associate Gilbert Correa lead today's conversation as they meet with Elsie Garcia, a descendant of one of the men killed in the Porvenir Massacre. Elsie shares with us how she learned about her family's story and the way she works to ensure it continues to be remembered. 

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This episode comes in a time of dire need for historical reflection and current action. Over the past few weeks, the Monuments Toolkit team, alongside the rest of the nation, has watched as anti-immigrant sentiments, deportations, and racial violence all reached new heights in the modern era. The events happening in Minneapolis today feel reticent of those in 2020 that led to the creation of the Toolkit and this podcast, including the murder of George Floyd and the summer of protests against oppressive monuments thereafter. However, we must also highlight the difference between the protests then and the protests now as this time our nation struggles to reconcile with its history of violence against the Latine community. 

This history needs to be present in the monuments and sites landscape, but it largely remains absent. While we often discuss the need to remove bronze figures of oppression, we also must reinterpret the historic sites of violence to tell the stories of those lost, which is why today, we bring to you a special episode addressing our nation’s history of violence against Americans of Mexican descent in Texas. We’re meeting with Trinidad Gonzales, a history professor, descendant of La Matanza, and formerly a co-founder of Refusing to Forget; and Benjamin Johnson co-founder ofsx Refusing to Forget, a Texas-based non-profit dedicated to strengthening the collective memory of La Matanza and the history of racial violence on the Mexico-Texas border. 

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price, Madeline Bonner

Production: Noah Price

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Melancholy Lull by Vital

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The process of commemorating a site with complicated histories can be a challenge. Whether you're looking to memorialize a tragedy or highlight the hidden history of a site popular for other reasons, there are several steps of care necessary to consider. Ereshnee Naidu, Executive Director of the International Coalition of Sites of Conscience, joins us today to tell us a bit more about how these sites can be properly cared for as well as what types of places qualify as a "site of conscience."

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price, Madeline Bonner

Production: Noah Price

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Melancholy Lull by Vital

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Monuments are often designed by a single person or small team of people. The (Un)Set in Stone project defies that. Instead, the three initial creators of this monument pass the work onto the community of Montgomery, Alabama to define what monument represents them. Today, we're joined by Jose Vazquez and Ashley Edwards to talk about their work with this project and what it means for a monument to be community made.

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Host: Noah Price

Interviewer: Noah Price, Madeline Bonner

Production: Noah Price

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Melancholy Lull by Vital

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