Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Subscribe: episode updates covid chapter 2. tom has arrived back in the east coast from his trip down the mississippi, thus beginning a new chapter of rp daily. the country is in the beginning stages of reopening; but concerning images of people coming together—perhaps too close—are circulating. tom and rp highlight the importance of not turning masks into a divisive topic, including north dakota governor doug burgum’s pleaful speech to avoid masks as a political statement. they also discuss the new york times cover with 1000 names on the front page: is it editorial? too dramatic? also, how will the world post-pandemic stratify privileged groups from the less fortunate, and how will industries change as a result? finally, with the dawn of a covid-19 vaccine approaching, what would it mean if the vaccine was developed in america versus china? as the pandemic moves forward, so do tom and rp’s conversations highlighting togetherness and daily life.  tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.   rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser. listen to this episode on apple podcasts subscribe to our youtube channel follow us on facebook follow us on instagram transcriptTom Scott [00:00:21] RP welcome back. It's Tuesday.    R.P. Eddy [00:00:26] Nice to see you, Tom. Welcome back to the East Coast.    Tom Scott [00:00:28] Yeah, it's. So the weekend is over. Memorial Day weekend is over. My trip is over. And I think Chapter one is over, and I'll give you my, my theory on it and you can you can fire my idea. It's up. It's up for debate. And first, if I could, I you know, I'm a little sad from my trip. I feel sad because I feel like. I witnessed the world moving on when I got home. Now, that may just be my own paranoia. It may be my own. You know, looking into the future and lamenting my prediction or something. But. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the trip was so special and the people were so special and there was so much hope in it in the midst of the challenges. And so I have hopes that we're going to be a better place. OK. And again, I'm not quitting. I'm not. But then this weekend and there is something beautiful about this weekend. People went out the world. Went out. Emerged, did things. I saw lots of people doing lots of things. Many of them were responsible. A few of them irresponsibly, in my view of things. I know in the case of parents, there's a lot of like, okay, I'm going to let them go see so-and-so. I hear that a lot. And and I do think there's an aspect to it that it was healthy and maybe necessary. Maybe it's just the way we humans are to forget for a little bit. And let's just forget about this for a few days and go to the next place. So, you know, that's a mouthful. But I do think that by and large, the first sort of lockdown part of this is kind of over doesn't mean there won't be more lockdowns. And now we're in this new sphere. And I hope we get it right or do it as well as we can. A and B, and this is this one's more emotional for me. I want to be part of being a better world post, and I. And I know that in some that can sound corny, that can sound romantic. And I mean it like I feel it. I just feel it like I, I we have an opportunity to do something special here and I hope we do. And that's why I'm I'm running up the flagpole. Is it time to call the RP Daily Show Chapter two?    R.P. Eddy [00:03:05] I just love that.    Tom Scott [00:03:06] Thank you.    R.P. Eddy [00:03:08] It was beautiful to watch it, really. You know, I suspect a lot of people who view this felt the same way,

tom has arrived back in the east coast from his trip down the mississippi, thus beginning a new chapter of rp daily. the country is in the beginning stages of reopening; but concerning images of people coming together—perhaps too close—are circulating. tom and rp highlight the importance of not turning masks into a divisive topic, including north dakota governor doug burgum’s pleaful speech to avoid masks as a political statement. they also discuss the new york times cover with 1000 names on the front

Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Subscribe: episode updates rp daily has finished 50 episodes and 5,500 miles of a journey down the mississippi river. tom and rp discuss some of the guests on the show that have moved them the most: stacey woodland, laurie garrett, and vivek murthy, whose contributions aided in creating a conversation around the pandemic. as the 50th episode coincides with memorial day, tom and rp honor those who have served and lost their lives for their country—including pandemic front line workers. tom reflects on his trip down the mississippi: who he’s met, the conversations that he’s had, and what he’s learned the most from his deep dive into america’s heartland. tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.   rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser. listen to this episode on apple podcasts subscribe to our youtube channel follow us on facebook follow us on instagram transcript Tom Scott [00:00:11] Memorial Day weekend started as a celebration to honor the dead who served in our wars and it started in the Civil War both in the north and the south. It was called Decoration Day, but really it was about decorating the graves of the soldiers who had perished. It was in states kind of forever, and it really became a more national thing in the early nineteen hundreds, particularly around World War One. But it was not made a national holiday until 1967. Today, we celebrate Memorial Day as a way to honor the foreign soldiers, and part of what we'll do is we'll honor the people who have suffered or unfortunately perished as a part of Covid. Those on the front line. Hi, everybody, I'm Tom Scott. With me, as always, R.P. Eddy. R.P., thanks for being here. You know, we've done about 50 shows now. One of the things we're gonna do today is we're gonna reflect and sort of talk about some of the lessons. RP, I don't know if you just want to give us a quick, quick reflection. But thank you. And again, I've learned so much from you and you've you've given so much to this. And we all appreciate it. R.P. Eddy [00:01:23] Tom, thank you. I really, really, really love doing this. It's meant a lot to me to have a chance to every day just sit down and learn what's going on the world. For me, it's been a huge anchor to my day to sit down and sort of assess what's going on and get my thoughts together and do it with you and the team. So thank you. And I also want to thank Katie Banks on our team has been critical to making this work. And there's 20 young analysts at Ergo, all of whom have joined our firm to talk about geopolitics or economics, not not diseases. And every single one of them pivoted super hard into becoming immature virologists and build models. And so if you ever hear me say anything smart, it's because they're whispering in my ear and letting me know what's going on in the world across the vaccines, the treatments and epidemiology and everything that's happening. So that whole team and I won't mention my name because there's really 20 of them have been extraordinary and kept us on top of the news and looking around the corner. So thank you to them. And that's necessary because, you know, if you think about what we're trying to understand here, we're all trying to we we feel like it's in our our vital interests, like it's a mortal interest to us to become somewhat expert in epidemiology, which is different than public health, which is different than sociology, which is different than the economy, which is different than sort of the psychology of why am I sitting around and butting my fingernails and eating sugar cereal 3:00 in the m...

rp daily has finished 50 episodes and 5,500 miles of a journey down the mississippi river. tom and rp discuss some of the guests on the show that have moved them the most: stacey woodland, laurie garrett, and vivek murthy, whose contributions aided in creating a conversation around the pandemic. as the 50th episode coincides with memorial day, tom and rp honor those who have served and lost their lives for their country—including pandemic front line workers. tom reflects on his trip down the mississippi: who he’s met, the conversations that he’s had, and what he’s learned the most from his deep dive into america’s heartland.

tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.

rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser.

Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Subscribe: episode updates we think we’re in a fight we are not actually in. start - cautious - vigilant - a new normal: these four phases of breakouts from the covid-19 shutdown are a wary attempt to return to normalcy. with massachusetts announcing their plan to reopen beginning with stage one, hosts tom scott and rp eddy discuss the questions of restarting daily life: how do we reopen? do we expect spikes in covid-19 cases, and what do we do about them? how do we get back to “normal” while protecting ourselves and those most vulnerable around us? tom has arrived in nashville, where he is visiting the muscle shoals, subject of a music documentary. he notes that most of the city has reopened, but also acknowledges the economic impact of the shutdown. rp eddy and tom discuss the impact of privilege and health on the likelihood of contracting covid-19, and strive to answer the best way to help ourselves and our communities while avoiding the spread of the virus.  tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo. rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser. listen to this episode on apple podcasts subscribe to our youtube channel follow us on facebook follow us on instagram transcript Tom Scott [00:00:22] I'm Tom Scott. This is R.P. Daily. R.P., I am in Nashville today, Nashville. That's the Ryman Auditorium behind me right there. I'd show you the front of the Ryman Auditorium, but they're doing construction on the front in front of the Ryman Auditorium. So we couldn't go there. But, you know, this was never intended to be a music trip. But, you know, just the way things turned out, we were across the street from Stax Records in Memphis. There was obviously all the influence of the music down in New Orleans and then throughout Mississippi, the birthplace of Elvis. Yesterday, we were at Fame Records, which, you know, if you watch... If you want to watch a great documentary, I'm sure many of you have seen this. But the Muscle Shoals documentary is so good. It's just such an interesting and powerful story with a lot of ironies in it that really make it beautiful. So after the show yesterday, we were in the studio. We got to sit in on a session. My friend Freddie Camalier, who made the film, connected us there. You know, we got to shoot in there. Powerful. Very cool. They can't do that with masks. So they take their masks off. You know, it ruins the sound. And they were just able to reopen. And then we drove up here and we got to Nashville. And Nashville is fairly open, a fair amount of activity going on. You know, there's a psychological thing. I feel very different. I can't explain it. You know, I'm starting to see people move around. I start to feel more confident, comfortable, and I start to forget a little. There's a part of me that sort of forgets everything we're going through. And I know back where you guys are and I know in particular, R.P., you were able to look at some of the things Massachusetts and other states are doing sort of as a prelude to that. One, do you others understand the psychological description I'm making and does that worry you? And then two, tie that to some of the specifics about what you see and what's happening with Massachusetts, et cetera. And I know it goes back to a show we had last week when we were talking with the folks from Nantucket about sort of how they're going to manage things for them. And it makes sense. We can circle back on that to. R.P Eddy [00:02:34] You know, we've talked a lot about the heart and the head and put more words on that, it's like complex new science,

start - cautious - vigilant - a new normal: these four phases of breakouts from the covid-19 shutdown are a wary attempt to return to normalcy. with massachusetts announcing their plan to reopen, beginning with stage one, hosts tom scott and rp eddy discuss the questions of restarting daily life: how do we reopen? do we expect spikes in covid-19 cases, and what do we do about them? how do we get back to “normal” while protecting ourselves and those most vulnerable around us? tom has arrived in nashville, where he is visiting the muscle shoals, subject of a music documentary. he notes that most of the city has reopened, but also acknowledges the economic impact of the shutdown. rp eddy and tom discuss the impact of privilege and health on the likelihood of contracting covid-19, and strive to answer the best way to help ourselves and our communities while avoiding the spread of the virus

tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project.rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo. rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser.

tom and rp play catch up with recent episodes of rp daily. tom, who is in alabama on his drive down the mississippi river, notes the impact of the 90,000 deaths from covid-19. this news is dismal, but it opens up tom and rp’s conversation: what are the 10 things each that they think we have learned and will change as a result of the covid-19 pandemic? with a useful and refreshing perspective, tom takes on the subject of marginalized americans and how they are reacting to the pandemic; rp discusses leadership, communities, and the natural beauty of america. all the while, tom and rp dive into the popular culture of the mississippi, including elvis, the allman brothers, Netflix’s “Last Chance U,” and larry gordon. listeners who want a recap of recent rp daily episodes will find this episode helpful.

tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.

rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser.

tom and rp play catch up with recent episodes of rp daily. tom, who is in alabama on his drive down the mississippi river, notes the impact of the 90,000 deaths from covid-19. this news is dismal, but it opens up tom and rp’s conversation: what are the 10 things each that they think we have learned and will change as a result of the covid-19 pandemic? with a useful and refreshing perspective, tom takes on the subject of marginalized americans and how they are reacting to the pandemic; rp discusses leadership, communities, and the natural beauty of america. all the while, tom and rp dive into the popular culture of the mississippi, including elvis, the allman brothers, Netflix’s “Last Chance U,” and larry gordon. listeners who want a recap of recent rp daily episodes will find this episode helpful.

tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.

rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser.

may 16, 2020 Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Subscribe: episode updates the island of nantucket, massachusetts has reduced its covid-19 infections to zero. not only is this an extraordinary feat, it poses an extraordinary problem: with the island’s three-month summer season approaching on memorial day, how will the island keep that infection rate low while keeping their economy at a high? as people arrive on nantucket, they will inevitably carry disease, and with only one hospital on the island, there’s the chance of a spike in infection and death. tom and rp are joined by matt fee, owner of Something Natural, and dawn holdgate, a real estate agent. both matt and dawn are local to nantucket, and are on the island’s governing select board. nantucket is posed with an incredibly unique situation as the population increases by 500 percent during the summer months: how will cases of covid-19 be prevented, screened, and traced? rp notes that the possibilities to create a successful model for reopening on the island could be impactful to similar environments; however, the island also houses a divided population on the subject of reopening.  tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.   rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser. listen to this episode on apple podcasts subscribe to our youtube channel follow us on facebook follow us on instagram transcript Tom Scott [00:00:22] My name is Tom Scott, chairman of the Nantucket Project with his usual R.P. Eddy with us today, or Dawn Holdgate and Matt Fee from Nantucket and introduce those guys in a moment, I'm sitting up on a ridge over the Mississippi River. I'm in Vicksburg, Mississippi. Big battle here, some say, including and perhaps as significant battle in the Civil War as Gettysburg. Yesterday, you may recall, I was in Memphis, RP I had a conversation with Tom Shadyac. We spent a fair amount of time there. He has a what is effectively a community center in downtown Memphis. And like others that we've come across on this trip, these are organizations that were doing one thing. Two months ago and something totally different now feeding people. Providing equipment, cleaning supplies, other things for the community, and they're sort of these heroic things happening. I think the other headline from it, from my point of view is, you know, these towns that we go through, they span the spectrum politically. I mean, we absolutely see both sides of the argument from a political perspective. And yet there is a common level of frustration and fear. I'm worried, you know, because we're closing in on Louisiana. In fact, that is Louisiana across the river over there. There's more intensity towards the disease, you see a lot of face masks in this neck of the woods, you see. You saw very few up north and you know, the frustration in Minnesota. We characterize as, you know, where our businesses are essentially destroyed and there really are no cases around here. And then when you get down here, we're afraid of the disease in a big way. Our businesses are destroyed, too. And they they want answers and they're trying to sort of navigate their way through. It's a little sad, I have to tell you. It's a little bit sad to sort of go through all this and hear these thoughts. However, you know, some of the people who we met yesterday and a lot of the people I'm meeting on this trip. There's so many heroes here. You know, there's so many interesting, powerful people doing amazing work in their community. There was a guy Chris we had a photo of him yesterday who's one of the guys who runs this community center in Memphi...

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the island of nantucket, massachusetts has reduced its covid-19 infections to zero. not only is this an extraordinary feat, it poses an extraordinary problem: with the island’s three-month summer season approaching on memorial day, how will the island keep that infection rate low while keeping their economy at a high? as people arrive on nantucket, they will inevitably carry disease, and with only one hospital on the island, there’s the chance of a spike in infection and death. tom and rp are joined by matt fee, owner of Something Natural, and dawn holdgate, a real estate agent. both matt and dawn are local to nantucket, and are on the island’s governing select board. nantucket is posed with an incredibly unique situation as the population increases by 500 percent during the summer months: how will cases of covid-19 be prevented, screened, and traced? rp notes that the possibilities to create a successful model for reopening on the island could be impactful to similar environments; however, the island also houses a divided population on the subject of reopening. 

tom scott is chairman & co-founder of the nantucket project. rp eddy was the architect of the Clinton administration’s pandemic response framework and the United Nations response to the global AIDS epidemic & is CEO of global intelligence firm Ergo.  

rp is co-author of the best-selling award-winning book Warnings: Finding Cassandras to Stop Catastrophes with Richard A. Clarke, Former National Security Council counterterrorism adviser.

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Tom Scott [00:00:22] My name is Tom Scott, chairman of the Nantucket Project with his usual R.P. Eddy with us today, or Dawn Holdgate and Matt Fee from Nantucket and introduce those guys in a moment, I'm sitting up on a ridge over the Mississippi River. I'm in Vicksburg, Mississippi. Big battle here, some say, including and perhaps as significant battle in the Civil War as Gettysburg. Yesterday, you may recall, I was in Memphis, RP I had a conversation with Tom Shadyac. We spent a fair amount of time there. He has a what is effectively a community center in downtown Memphis. And like others that we've come across on this trip, these are organizations that were doing one thing. Two months ago and something totally different now feeding people. Providing equipment, cleaning supplies, other things for the community, and they're sort of these heroic things happening. I think the other headline from it, from my point of view is, you know, these towns that we go through, they span the spectrum politically. I mean, we absolutely see both sides of the argument from a political perspective. And yet there is a common level of frustration and fear. I'm worried, you know, because we're closing in on Louisiana. In fact, that is Louisiana across the river over there. There's more intensity towards the disease, you see a lot of face masks in this neck of the woods, you see. You saw very few up north and you know, the frustration in Minnesota. We characterize as, you know, where our businesses are essentially destroyed and there really are no cases around here. And then when you get down here, we're afraid of the disease in a big way. Our businesses are destroyed, too. And they they want answers and they're trying to sort of navigate their way through. It's a little sad, I have to tell you. It's a little bit sad to sort of go through all this and hear these thoughts. However, you know,