In this expansive episode of The Narrative, Burning Bright and Matt Ehret dive into a layered conversation that bridges current psyops and historical revisionism. They begin by unpacking the Epstein saga and its weaponization in modern discourse, then pivot to reflections on the Vietnam-era counterculture, secret societies like the Hellfire Club, and the manipulation of collective morality through fiction and pop culture.

The second half turns to the Founding Fathers, challenging the monolithic view of their unity by exploring fierce rivalries and philosophical contradictions among Jefferson, Hamilton, and others. Matt shares insights from his recent writings defending Hamilton and Lincoln, sparking debates over the legitimacy of centralized power and the tension between individual liberty and collective welfare. Along the way, the hosts weave in everything from the Watchmen’s moral paradox to the timeless power of stories in shaping public consciousness. It’s an episode that questions everything...past and present, and invites listeners to embrace the uncertainty while demanding accountability.