The Nate & Curtis Show

We cover a lot of different things this week, almost all of them related to TV and TV production. We check in on your comments from episode 2! We talk a lot about Savage Steve Holland! We talk about how to get financing! We look forward to your comments on this one.

Oh, and get your tickets for the Sabrina LIVE show.

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• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

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• The Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenateandcurtisshow/ 

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Game Box 1.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrwBt5pifQ 

• Check out Season 2, Episode 2 wherever you get your podcasts!

• Amy McLean author and Sabrina fan: https://www.instagram.com/mcleanamy13/ 

• 90’s Con: https://www.thats4entertainment.com/90scon 

• Burn Notice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_Notice 

• The Halloween Podcast: https://www.thehalloweenpodcast.com/ 

• Savage Steve Holland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Steve_Holland 

• One Crazy Summer: https://youtu.be/araGhvv2IDg 

• Better Off Dead: https://youtu.be/NdSavg_i_lw 

• Eek the Cat: https://youtu.be/asqNyc8XdmA 

• Sabrina the Animated Series: https://youtu.be/FIA9yoDfCTs 

• Georgie and Mandy’s First Marriage: https://youtu.be/ZbdK-QJtFKI 

• Will Sasso: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Sasso 

• Jamie Kaler: https://www.instagram.com/jamiekaler/ 

• My Boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Boys 

• Skydance merger: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxj0604d33qzo 

• BowserVids: https://www.youtube.com/@BowserVids/featured 

• There are 32 teeth, on average, in a human mouth.

• Sabrina the Teenage Witch Cast Reunion LIVE Show: https://events.seated.com/sabrina-cast-reunion  

What is it like when we interact with fans 30 years after Sabrina? We talk about fame, how it changes, how the culture has changed, and Nate heading over to 90’s Con. Help grow that para-social relationship and listen to this week’s episode! And then comment and stuff, let’s make more fan interactions.

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• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• The Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenateandcurtisshow/ 

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Learn from Curtis in Portland: https://www.thestudionw.com/acting-classes 

• Curtis’s Wife René Bordelon: https://www.instagram.com/renesrevolution/ 

• See more about my time at Industry Connect at Curtis’s production company Patreon (it’s behind the paywall): https://www.patreon.com/andelonprod/posts/film-independent-170832004?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share  

• Class Wars: https://classwars.love/ 

• Come Shoot in Portland: https://oregonfilm.org/article/start-here-incentives/ 

• We’re Still Here Babe Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/werestillherebabe/ 

• Doc Meets World: https://mubi.com/en/us/films/doc-meets-world 

• 90’s Con: https://www.thats4entertainment.com/90scon 

• Didn’t Age Well YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=didn%27t+age+well+commercials 

• Kung Pow! Enter the Fist: https://youtu.be/d2Mbe0I4qgc 

• Mickey Rooney Yellow face: https://www.history.com/articles/yellowface-whitewashing-in-film-america 

• Sean Connery in You Only Live Twice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Live_Twice_(film) 

• Sabrina the Teenage Witch Reunion Tour: https://events.seated.com/sabrina-cast-reunion 

• The Nate/Harvey merch store: https://official-merch-cb89f81112.printify.me/ 

This is a great episode, especially if you like the technical side of movie making. Special guest, Devon K. Lee is on the show talking about how he met Nate, how he spends his time in the biz, and things he’s working on. We also get to know what Nate is like in the edit bay and we talk about old formats because we’re old.

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Adobe Premiere Pro: https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere.html 

• Final Cut Pro: https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/ 

• Davinci Resolve: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve 

• D/Vision Pro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D/Vision_Pro 

• Film Speed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_speed 

Welcome to episode 2! This is definitely episode 2 and I never called it episode 3 while we were recording… I swear! Today we’re talking about modern TV culture or the lack thereof. Does the fragmentation of media lead to more or less opportunity is this crazy business of show? And what will be nostalgic for kinds when they look back on the aughts? We talked about that in today’s chat. The second half really picks up!

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• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

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• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo: https://youtu.be/eF3am4KwXNU 

• Old Town Pizza: https://oldtownpizza.com/Home.html 

  • Nina the ghost: https://www.otbrewing.com/haunted-past 

• Ready Player One: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_Player_One 

• Wall Street Journal - The Rise and Fall of American Monoculture (requires subscription): https://www.wsj.com/business/media/american-pop-culture-history-ce8672f1 

• The Conversation - How ‘monoculture’ became a catchall for two opposing anxieties – that we no longer share enough, and that we all share too much: https://theconversation.com/how-monoculture-became-a-catchall-for-two-opposing-anxieties-that-we-no-longer-share-enough-and-that-we-all-share-too-much-282016 

• Robert Rosenberg - Missing the Monoculture: https://robrosenberg.substack.com/p/missing-the-monoculture 

• One Day at a Time Reboot: https://youtu.be/U1tekbfDSjg 

• Mandy & Georgie’s First Marriage: https://youtu.be/ZbdK-QJtFKI 

• Young Sheldon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Sheldon 

• The Halloween Podcast: https://www.thehalloweenpodcast.com/podcast 

• Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things 

• Bluey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series) 

Welcome to season 2! This episode was supposed to be the second episode, but now it’s the first episode. We talk about the weather (like you do) and how horrifying showbiz can be and we get into gear talk a little.

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• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Board Bard Games: https://www.theboardbard.com/ 

• Tinker Tavern: https://www.tinkertavernpdx.com/ 

• Why do they say to not wear white after Labor Day? https://www.history.com/articles/no-white-after-labor-day-origins-fashion 

• Jenna Leigh Green: https://www.instagram.com/jennaleighgreen/ 

• Paul Meyd: https://www.instagram.com/paul_meyd/ 

• Under 5: https://youtu.be/uNkOJ8UyBRE 

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• Picture this Studios PDX: https://pixthis.com/ 

• Desert Island Studios: https://www.desertislandstudios.co/ 

• Squirrel: https://tubitv.com/movies/678413/squirrel 

• Criminal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(TV_series) 

• Box O’ Christ: https://youtu.be/F9xfWgbBAJg 

• Tahga: https://youtu.be/x7g_11ApmUM 

This is it! We made it to the final episode of our first season. Thank you all so much for your support and listening to our weekly conversations. We really didn’t know how people would take to this experiment, but y’all have really come through in force. As a special treat we invited Libby Chesler herself, Jenna Leigh Green, to come join the conversation. This was a lot of fun and we might have to do a few more like this.

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Jenna on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennaleighgreen/ 

• Jenna Cameo: https://www.cameo.com/jennaleighgreen?qid=1611557539&utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio 

• Jenna’s Wiki Feet - Be Responsible, people! https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=Ms1jKxrhe-ysTCit 

We’ll see you in the fall for Season 2!

This is the PENULTIMATE EPISODE of the first season of the podcast! Naturally we decide to pull out the deep topics right here near the end. We also talk about Neil Breen and indie filmmaking as well as the actual craft of acting. If you like this podcast because we talk real stuff, then this is your kind of episode.

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

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• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Portland Panorama Film Festival: https://www.portlandpanorama.org/ 

• Under 5: https://youtu.be/uNkOJ8UyBRE?si=vJffE3dElHXPiiU5 

• Without A Box: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withoutabox 

• Neil Breen: https://neilbreenfilmsllc.com/ 

  • The trailer for Dire Duplicity: https://youtu.be/o0DGnxayGFM?si=dTPzhuRgciJTVdFi 

• Jeff Garvin: https://jeffgarvinbooks.com/ 

• Pi Hard A.I short: https://youtu.be/CNbmoVdirxw?si=RAf5XZWWN9JSHg3w 

• G. Charles Wright: https://www.gcharleswright.com/ 

• Revenging starring Kevin Yee and Nate Richert: https://youtu.be/QrRqk1LuRdQ?si=I9_s9Hhjip_sgETL

• The Pitt: https://play.hbomax.com/show/e6e7bad9-d48d-4434-b334-7c651ffc4bdf 

• Grey’s Anatomy: https://abc.com/show/b7d90f97-dbb2-4ab5-b141-f9cbeae53581 

NEXT WEEK: Special Guest Jenna Leigh Green!

The podcast charted, Curtis added some new representation to his team, and the pollen is BLOOMING! We also get into what it’s like being an actor in the current state of the business and how Nate is ready for a John Travolta-like comeback.

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Faulkner Winery: https://falknerwinery.com/ 

• Wanna hire Curtis in the PNW? http://www.q6talent.com/ 

• Wanna hire Nate or Curtis in LA/Chi/NYC? https://www.atbtalent.com/ 

• Skibidi Toilet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skibidi_Toilet 

• The Quiet Room Challenge was a hoax.

Recorded on April 1st 2026, I feel like you can really see that Nate and I are dragging. It had been a REALLY LONG first quarter. But in spite of that we’re dropping so hard core film school knowledge once you get past the 20 minute mark. Also the weather was really weird so we talked about that in those first 20 minutes.

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Under 5: https://youtu.be/uNkOJ8UyBRE?si=Heu0SFzYskELoYVb 

• Class Wars: https://classwars.love/ 

• Something Witchy Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingWitchyPod 

• RE: The quiet room challenge - turns out that was not real.

• Yes, Erin worked on Stranger Things Season 5.

• Shamrock Shake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock_Shake 

• Nate on Cameo: https://www.cameo.com/nate.richert?aaQueryId=2c7395ffb3dd0f0de8cda7673c733a2d 

• Curtis on Cameo: https://www.cameo.com/curtisandersen?qid=1782363165&aaQueryId=d66d3b80535ac0771215df762e9c7cba 

• Patrick H. Willems: https://www.youtube.com/@patrickhwillems 

• Nate’s Production Company: https://5thstreeteast.com/ 

The status quo of the entertainment industry is gone, done, finito! So we talk a little bit about what we’re supposed to do now and what we are currently doing. 

Then we promptly tangent off into a discussion about old TV theme songs and the people who wrote and sang them. Thanks for all the help Wikipedia!

To get early access to episodes and more subscribe to the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/NateandCurtisPodcast 

• Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenaterichert/

• Curtis's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtisandersen/

• Nate's Music: http://www.naterichert.net/music2.html

• Curtis's Substack: https://curtisandersen.substack.com/  

• Let Me Be Your Fool music video: https://youtu.be/sZxdXT0FfPE?si=v3Tcl4YE_l9UnRCf 

• To follow the work Curtis and his wife René are doing in Portland: https://www.patreon.com/cw/andelonprod 

• Rainbow Bridge Info: https://youtu.be/tJ0rwrQJxn8?si=VII6x5tabm0FtEV5 

• Curtis’s Creative Manifesto: https://youtu.be/9X3pjlX_it4?si=cebdPMfYdc5KUtuX

• How A.I. is affecting porn: https://gitnux.org/ai-in-the-adult-industry-statistics/ 

• Ihimu Ukpo: https://www.instagram.com/ihimuukpo/ 

• Jaime Jessup: https://jjessup.com/ 

• Perfect Strangers Theme Song: https://youtu.be/hnqBNZYg524?si=9YQ0NgJs09EgMnGt 

• Full House Theme Song: https://youtu.be/6mrUcjU8n3U?si=BnFYYZHr2YvvbcK_ 

• Family Matters Theme Song: https://youtu.be/Z4R91CR-YZU?si=rtdWZ2-JQcjC6D4L 

• Step By Step Theme Song: https://youtu.be/843BZY6sF0Q?si=yOOq_Jq3SrBXId-9 

• Blossom Theme Song: https://youtu.be/CrkhCH2Rx8Q?si=6LE00AYA6IGYjs87 

• Facts of Life Theme Song Blog Post: https://www.80sxchange.com/post/tv-theme-songs-the-facts-of-life 

•  Mike Post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Post 

• Jesse Frederick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Frederick 

• Who wrote the Sabrina the Teenage Witch theme song?: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0693093/soundtrack/ 

• Bodies Exhibit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BodiesTheExhibition 

• The State: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_State_(American_TV_series) 

• Tinker Tavern in Portland: https://www.tinkertavernpdx.com/