Guest: Dr Joleen Steyn Kotze: Chief Research Specialist in Democracy and Citizenship: Developmental, Capable and Ethical State research division of the HSRC.
Guest: Advocate Gary Pienaar: former Senior Research Manager at the Human Sciences
Guests: Dr Steven Gordon: Senior Research Specialist in the Developmental, Capable and Ethical State (DCES) research division of the Human Sciences Research Council (HSRC).