On the March 21, 2025, episode of The Neil Haley Show, Neil Haley and co-host Greg Hanna were live from the Grotto, where they welcomed actress Lisa Whelchel, best known for her role as Blair on the iconic TV series The Facts of Life. Lisa shared how she landed the role as a teen, choosing The Facts of Life over a more secure role on another show, and how the show’s cultural impact surprised her. She reflected on the fun and freedom she experienced on set, even working alongside George Clooney, and how the series addressed powerful topics that helped shape societal conversations. Despite her success, she explained that her personal life remained separate from her acting career, especially after transitioning from full-time actress to full-time mom.
The conversation shifted to Lisa’s appearance on Survivor, which she joined not for fame but as a longtime fan of the show’s strategy and social dynamics. Her journey on Survivor led to unexpected opportunities in entertainment, including roles in a Tyler Perry film and Hallmark Channel movies. Lisa also discussed her evolving spiritual beliefs, detailing her upcoming book, Don't Throw the Baby Jesus Out with the Bathwater, which explores her transition from identifying as a traditional Christian to seeing herself more as a Christ follower focused on compassion and inclusion. She emphasized the importance of loving oneself unconditionally, a powerful life lesson she continues to learn.
Later in the show, Neil and co-host Paul Hollis interviewed Ronald Gruner, author of COVID Wars: America’s Struggle Over Public Health and Personal Freedom. Gruner, a public health historian and engineer, provided a data-driven analysis of how different U.S. states handled the pandemic, weighing the balance between public health outcomes and economic impacts. The discussion delved into the political, economic, and emotional divides COVID exposed, with co-host Frank sharing a deeply personal and emotional viewpoint on vaccine skepticism and medical authority. Gruner stressed the need for future generations to study the pandemic without current biases and emphasized trusting data from leading medical institutions when navigating future public health crises.