**This episode originally aired in March of 2022**

Claire chats with the founder and CEO of The New Primal, Jason Burke. This conversation is an interesting one, discussing the intersection of health, healthcare and the broken food and medical systems. They also discuss terms like "clean" - what that means to both of them, and Jason's motto of progress over perfection. Get 20% off any product on their website by using this link: https://glnk.io/y40j/dabbleco Or use code Dabbleco20