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The Next Conversation Ch 1. By: Jefferson Fisher


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Let’s dive into episode 228. It’s an absolute gem.

The Next Conversation - Argue Less, Talk More - Chapter 1

By: Jefferson Fisher

It is so packed full of great information, we wanted to deliver it a chapter at a time. 

Jefferson Fisher is a Texas trial lawyer that grew up in a family with a legacy of lawyers. His no nonsense approach aptly applies to all seasons of life. 


Chapter 1 - Never Win an Argument

  • “Begin to see every argument as a window into another person’s struggle.”
  • Let your breath be your first word.
  • LaPray story - Fisher asked an aggressive hulk of a man one simple question that changed everything!  “What’s the hardest thing you’ve gone through this year?”
  • Uncover what is beneath the surface (think iceberg)
  • “The person you see isn’t always the person you're talking to.”
  • Shift in perspective-instead of unraveling the issue, seek to understand the heart of the matter.
  • Those with traumatic childhood influences are given the steps to break negative cycles
  • Reframe arguments as chances to understand, connect and grow

“Have something to learn, NOT something to prove.” We grow when we seek truth instead of self-promote. Winning an argument can quickly become a loss when it erodes the relationship. 

If you haven’t read Jerry Spinilli’s impactful book, Maniac MeGee, you might want to add that to your TBE (To Be Enjoyed) list, Maniac (aka Jeffery) is definitely a person you want to meet! Kate made a powerful connection to the colossal knot in the book. Whoever is able to untie the huge weathered knot in the story earns the reward of free pizza for life! Maybe we can look at people as  knots to be unravelled. Can we thank God for progress and growth instead of impatiently seeking perfection? Love, love, loved Kate’s connection! We are striving to grow as Jefferson advised,  baby step by baby step. Are you ready to join us for that first step? Blessings dear listeners! 


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