The Next Interview Show

What if your greatest competitive edge isn’t in your product—but in your people?

In this episode of The Next Interview, host Doland White sits down with Mark Peters, CEO of Butterball Farms and author of The Source and the soon-to-be-released The Retention Trap. Together, they tackle a fundamental shift in leadership thinking: stop measuring turnover, and start investing in human potential.

Mark shares how inheriting a toxic culture led him to redefine leadership—from ripping up employee handbooks at 30, to launching a nationally recognized employer network. This episode is packed with real talk about trust, talent, and building a purpose-driven business.

Here’s what you’ll take away:

• Why promoting employees to other companies can be a growth strategy, not a loss

• How to build trust without traditional command-and-control

• The ROI of reducing “unplanned turnover”

• Why human capital is your hidden balance sheet

• How to think beyond competition and build a true employer ecosystem

Mark Peters has led Butterball Farms since 1995, transforming it into a mission-driven business focused on enriching lives. His insights challenge the status quo and offer bold, actionable strategies for any leader ready to evolve.

Meet Mark: https://butterballfarms.com/

On Amazon:

The SOURCE: Using the Power of Collaboration to Stabilize Your Workforce and Impact Your Community

The Retention Trap: Stop Measuring Turnover, Start Measuring Talent Investment

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In this episode of The Next Interview, Doland White sits down with Scott Clement, founder of Level 11 Productions—a premier production company creating transformational experiences across self-development, corporate, and live music events. Scott opens up about his journey from corporate burnout to becoming a sought-after event producer, building a business rooted in values, trust, and bold action.

Here’s what you’ll take away from this episode:

• Resilience isn’t linear: Scott’s journey proves that leadership is forged in uncertainty—and starts with saying yes even when afraid.

• Fear is data: Learn how Scott uses fear as a catalyst for action and growth.

• Build trust fast: Discover how Scott assembles cohesive, high-performing teams—even when they’re contractors brought in for a single event.

• Create culture from the ground up: See how Scott’s values show up in team behavior, client experience, and business strategy.

• Deliver outcomes, not just services: Why his STAGE Process aligns production with client results—and how you can do the same in your business.

Scott’s combination of humility, clarity, and unshakable service mindset makes this episode a must-listen for any leader building teams, brands, or events that actually change lives.

Meet Scott: https://www.level11pro.com/

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Most leaders talk about productivity. Few talk about love. In this episode, Doland White sits down with Kelly Winegarden Hall—former global sales leader, self-directed org architect, and author of Live Large: The Power of Love at Work—to unpack why love might be the leadership advantage we’ve all been missing.

Kelly shares her transformation from Fortune 500 executive to cultural change agent, revealing the story behind building self-directed teams, eliminating toxic hierarchies, and bringing humanity back to business. You’ll hear how reframing "why bother" accounts as “High Potential Entrepreneurs” generated double-digit growth and how replacing delegation with enrollment created genuine team ownership.

Actionable insights from this episode:

• Why "treating people like adults" is a leadership multiplier

• The power of rethinking org charts for inclusion and ownership

• How to use story and status to shift culture and drive performance

• The secret to co-creating accountability and letting go of command-and-control

Kelly’s personal story of surviving metastatic cancer adds powerful context to her mission: remove dis-ease from work and let love lead. Whether you lead a team of 5 or 5000, this conversation will challenge your definition of leadership.

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What if burnout wasn’t caused by your job—but by how you relate to it? In this eye-opening episode of The Next Interview, Doland White sits down with Emily Heird, executive coach, licensed therapist, and founder of a high-performance coaching company, to explore the psychological toll of leadership and the science-backed strategies to reverse burnout.

Drawing from 15 years of therapy, leadership, and real-life burnout, Emily shares how high achievers unintentionally create unsustainable conditions by tying their identity to outcomes, neglecting self-care, and over-functioning at work. But it’s not all theory—she walks us through the actual turning point in her life and what shifted everything.

What you'll learn:

• The real root of burnout (hint: it’s not your workload)

• How to rewire your mindset from outcome-obsession to purpose-driven action

• Simple, science-backed ways to reclaim your energy and rebuild your leadership edge

• The power of feedback, trust, and delegation in creating sustainable performance

• The critical difference between therapy and coaching—and why it matters

Emily Heird’s background in psychology and coaching makes her a powerhouse guide for leaders ready to reset and rise. If you’ve ever felt like success on paper didn’t match your inner experience, this one’s for you.

Contact Emily: https://vantageviewcoaching.com/

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Are you leading strategic thinking—or just managing tasks?

In this solo episode of The Next Interview, Doland White, leadership expert and author, breaks down how to transform strategic thinking from an idea into real, consistent action across your team.

You'll learn how to:

• Audit and upgrade your team's decision-making process

• Build communication rituals using the "Three-by-Three" method

• Invite real strategic thinking instead of micromanagement

• Implement a simple, powerful DART system to drive accountability

Doland brings over 40 years of leadership experience to the table, offering a clear, actionable path for leaders who want to move faster, create ownership, and build teams that think and act strategically. If you’re ready to stop chasing tasks and start leading real impact, this episode is a must-listen.

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Are you spending your time on what actually moves the needle—or just what feels comfortable?

In this episode of The Next Interview, Doland White sits down with Greg Kaiser, founder of Management Mastery and author of Management Rescue: You’re Promoted. Now What?, to unpack the real cost of poor time allocation and misaligned priorities in leadership.

Greg shares lessons from decades of experience, starting from the mailroom and rising to executive leadership, then transitioning to coaching managers and companies through meaningful transformation. Together, they dive into how leaders lose momentum when they confuse activity with impact, and how reclaiming your calendar is one of the most empowering steps you can take.

Actionable insights you’ll learn:

• Why tracking your time in 15-minute increments can reveal hard truths

• How to shift from reaction mode to strategic time allocation

• The one question every leader should ask before saying “yes” to anything

• How trust and candid conversations can change everything for your team

Greg brings authority, clarity, and a bit of humor to the conversation—making this episode a must-listen for managers looking to lead with intention instead of overload.

Meet Greg: https://www.managementmastery.solutions/

Greg’s Book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/jeTihSa

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What happens when a leadership coach almost breaks his own standard? You get an honest, impromptu episode packed with insight.

In this solo episode of The Next Interview Show, host Doland White shares a powerful lesson sparked by a conversation with Matt Levin, host of The Builders Podcast. The takeaway? When leaders fail to honor their own commitments, they risk breaking trust—not just with others, but with themselves.

Doland walks through a personal moment where he almost skipped an episode for vacation, then unpacks why showing up—especially when no one is watching—matters. This episode reinforces the four pillars of empowered leadership:

• Trust and autonomy starts with self-trust.

• Communication and transparency includes vulnerability.

• Growth and innovation requires consistent action.

• Systems of accountability must be honored, especially by the leader.

With over 40 years of leadership experience, Doland blends storytelling, mentorship from icons like Bob Proctor, and hard-won wisdom into a short, candid reflection.

If you’re serious about becoming the kind of leader others want to follow, this one’s for you.

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What if your organization's greatest growth opportunity was hiding in plain sight—behind outdated strategy, siloed goals, or a culture afraid to speak up?

In this episode of The Next Interview, I sit down with Chris Vaughan, Co-Founder of Sequence Consulting, a leading strategist behind the success of 12 of the top 20 global associations. With 24 years of experience helping membership-based organizations grow revenue, boost engagement, and ignite purpose, Chris shares how meaningful transformation really happens.

We dig deep into:

• How to align mission, membership, and money for lasting impact

• Why radical transparency and “real talk” shift culture and build trust

• The simple way to break free from the “do stuff” trap and refocus on outcomes

• How AI is helping associations personalize, scale, and actually grow

• The biggest leadership challenge in legacy organizations—and how to lead through it

Chris doesn’t hold back. From the power of clarity to building buy-in across complexity, this is a playbook for leaders who are done settling for status quo.

Chris Vaughan, PhD. is the Chief Strategy Officer for Sequence Consulting. Chris and his wife, Lisa, partner with professional and trade associations of all types and sizes globally, including more than half of the top 20 associations. Their unique expertise is also sought by Fortune 500 companies. What unites their clients is a growth mindset and a commitment to transformational change in membership and revenue.

Chris is a monthly contributor to Associations Now and frequently speaks for associations, organizations, and podcasts.

Chris is an enthusiastic amateur photographer who mostly focuses on nature, landscapes, and architecture. He likes power boating on Lake Michigan when the weather cooperates. Chris also loves travel. He's been to 77 countries so far, and he's shooting for 100.

Contact: https://sequenceconsulting.com/

What happens when a creative rebel turns a freelancing gig into a thriving digital agency with over 250 clients—and still keeps it fun? You get a masterclass in purpose-driven entrepreneurship with Jaret Cohen, CEO and Co-Founder of Techy Scouts.

In this episode, Jaret shares how being “a terrible employee” led to building a business rooted in values, relationships, and authenticity. From bootstrapping a business at 23 to building a high-retention team in a high-turnover industry, his journey is full of hard-earned lessons—and a few curveballs, including becoming a new dad and hiring his former boss.

We cover:

• How letting go of control unlocked massive growth

• The role of mission and values in creating sustainable success

• Why trust—internally and with clients—is the real engine of scale

• How to balance working on your business vs. in it

Jaret’s no-fluff take on building brand trust, treating your team like family, and leading with heart is worth every minute.

Jaret Cohen is the CEO of Techy Scouts, a leading digital marketing agency serving over 250 clients across multiple business sectors. With 14 years of experience, Jaret knows how to build and scale in a way that feels human—and works.

Contact: https://www.techyscouts.com/

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In this powerful conversation, Dr. Thomas Krause, pioneer of Behavior-Based Safety and author of If Your Culture Could Talk, joins host Doland White to explore how leadership decisions directly shape organizational culture—and what happens when leaders overlook that truth.

We dive deep into the real drivers of culture change, why upward communication saves lives, and the hard-won lessons from consulting with NASA following the Columbia disaster. Dr. Krause shares how a simple but profound question—“Is there another opinion in the room?”—became a game-changer in high-stakes environments.

Actionable insights from this episode:

• Why climate change precedes culture change—and how to influence both.

• The five research-backed cultural variables that impact safety and performance.

• How to turn upward communication into a trusted system.

• Why reassessing culture is critical—and how to do it right.

About Our Guest: Dr. Krause brings decades of experience in behavioral psychology, leadership, and safety consulting, offering an unmatched perspective on what it takes to shift culture meaningfully and measurably.

Contact: https://krausebellgroup.com/

Book: IF YOUR CULTURE COULD TALK, https://krausebellgroup.com/product/if-your-culture-could-talk/

If you're a leader ready to take a culture from a buzzword to a real business driver, this episode is for you.

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